Body for Life Forum Message by sas (58 posts) at 11:55 AM
So, on the Splenda front. I mentioned that I had terrible allergic reactions to it, including IBS... well I found that sucralose (Splenda) is secretly in other foods. So frustrating, you really have to read the labels on everything.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 11:58 AM
Yeah sucralose is everywhere now, especailly in suppliments. Its better than aspertame though.
Body for Life Forum Message by cfingram (1385 posts) at 07:49 AM
Agent69...oh no, not taking all the fun out of it, just people don't always realize that it can be expensive :-).....I still had lots of fun and I WILL do it again! :-)
I brought my bodyfat down to 12% (I should have brought it down to about 10%). The average is anywhere between 9% up to 14%..it all depends on your "look"...I have to bring my bodyfat down much lower then most women because I hold fat in my back and glutes, which is not good.
I didn't maintain my contest look for too long at all..my goal was to "get pregnant" and since my bodyfat was way too low, I needed to plump back up as quickly as possible.... :) In all honestly, you cannot maintain that "look", since, there's techniques that are used that are only temporary and should only be done when doing a competition...these techniques are playing with your water intake and your sodium levels.
When I competed I weighed at 119 lbs, a month later, I was up to 128 lbs. :-) And now I'm back up to 132.5. However, once I start competing again, my goal is to stay within 8 lbs of my competition weight.
Body for Life Forum Message by heavyweight (9 posts) at 08:53 AM
I'm interested in joining a team. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Myintencity (26 posts) at 10:55 AM
LOL,you guys are crazy!
Body for Life Forum Message by GetNFit (760 posts) at 11:00 AM
DO NOT LOOK AT THE BOYZ!!!
Im usually the only girl in the weight room as well. You will find if you stay focused and keep your eyes on you and no one else your workouts will rock!!!! More than likely no one is looking at you, and if they are, inspire them with your hard work!!!!! I've had a couple of guys at different times come to me as I was leaving and tell me how impressed they were with my intensity!
So get in there and kick bootay!!!
Keep Pump'n
Robin
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (147 posts) at 10:57 AM
OK, so I'm not doing it exactly as TNT says, but I have two low fat Nutrigrain waffles with 2 tbs of all natural peanut butter every morning. For me, it's the easiest way to get in the morning meal while trying to get out of the house.
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (37 posts) at 07:45 AM
Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (37 posts) at 07:47 AM
Sorry I hit enter trying to get to the message box. I am thinking of getting a George Foreman. Anyone have any thoughts on them good or bad? Also, what model to get.
Patty
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 07:54 AM
I have a small one. I think its called the little champ...not sure. I absolutely love this little thing. Ive made chicken, steak, squash, and salmon on it with great success. It cooks so fast it's amazing.
Body for Life Forum Message by GetInShape (52 posts) at 08:02 AM
They're great. I use it for my whole family. Cooks quick and drains fat.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 08:19 AM
I have one of the Hamilton Beach brand with the removable cooking surfaces.
There easy to use, fast cooking time, easy clean-up. I believe I paid about 50.00 for mine.
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1551 posts) at 08:24 AM
i use mine atleast once a day
Body for Life Forum Message by Jitter2001 (59 posts) at 08:27 AM
I have one of the larger George Foreman grills and it works wonderful. It literally cuts cooking time down by almost 45 mins. Mine cooks approx. 4 4oz boneless, skinless chicken breast in 9 minutes and it taste great.
-Ed-
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 08:37 AM
OMG YES with the G. Foreman! It is a MUST! Get one that has removable plates. My Mom has the big one that has a temperature setting and she said she hardly uses the temperature thing. She got me the slightly smaller version that was like $60.00-$69.99 Can't remember they had them on sale at Khol's the day after Christmas too.
I had the regular one old style and let's just say we loathed cleaning it. We replaced it with our Christmas gift the one with removable plates and life is sooooooooo good! LOVE IT! BTW our other one was 5 years old and still going strong. So they last! My advice what are you waiting for? ;-)
Body for Life Forum Message by shkelly (162 posts) at 08:37 AM
I really like mine but I got the WROONG ONE!! It doesn't have removable grills so it's a PAIN to clean!! Like we don't have enough dishes to do while on BFL!!! If you get one make sure it has a removable surface for easier clean-up!! You will seriously love having one!!
Shelly =)
Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (37 posts) at 08:52 AM
Wow! I love this site! You guys are the best. Thank you so much for your advice.
Patty
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 09:27 AM
Someone gave me a tip for easy clean up. Place your food inbetween parchment paper and you will never have to clean it again. I have not tried this yet because I cant seem to find parchment paper. Anyone know where to get it? Is it with the wax paper?
Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (37 posts) at 10:41 AM
Yes, you get the parchment paper in the same aisle as the wax paper. I just ordered the GF grill with removable grills for easier cleaning as TNT suggested. I can't wait to use it. By the way, Parchment paper is awesome for cookie baking...you know on your free day:) It keeps the bottom of the cookies from getting to dark.
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (530 posts) at 10:49 AM
Ive already burnt out THREE Foreman grills-I cook EVERYTHING on it!!
I cant imagine doing BFL with out it!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 01:26 PM
My Mom had one a while back shortly after they first came out and loved it. The food was good and it was easier to use than an outdoor grill. I just picked one up(knock off) this past weekend, returned it due to it having been broken in the package, then got a new one that seems just fine. Hopefully, I'll FINALLY be able to use it tonight!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Momentquo (29 posts) at 01:51 PM
I have the biggest George Foreman Grill. The one with the temperature settings.
I usually get the grill really hot for about 8-10 minutes then I put the meat on then turn the temperature to the lowest setting so that the meat will cook slowly. I find that it doesnt dry the meat out and makes for a tender and juicy cut of meat...
Body for Life Forum Message by Tai-Kee (2384 posts) at 02:25 PM
Same big one, removable plates, timer and temp settings, best thing snce sliced btread.
Body for Life Forum Message by sasyz250 (8 posts) at 02:27 PM
They are awesome!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by LittleBig (32 posts) at 02:33 PM
I've got a small one. No removable plates. After cooking while still hot, but unplugged, I just lay a couple of wet paper towels on it and close it. The heat makes everything just sizzle right off!! Easy clean up.
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (440 posts) at 03:51 PM
I like mine, but the husband says it makes the food dry and neutral tasting- I guess he's used to grilling...
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 03:57 PM
Im my experience the food turns out even more moist than on a regular grill. Just dont over cook things. The times in the book are based on 1" thick pieces.
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (487 posts) at 04:00 PM
Oh lord, LittleBig. Thanks for posting that tip. I was getting so pissed that I didn't buy the one with removable plates!
Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (37 posts) at 10:44 AM
Is this worth taking? If so, does it help with fat loss and is it natural? I take synthroid and don't want adverse side effects.
Body for Life Forum Message by stepor (25 posts) at 10:55 AM
Udo Erasmus has a real good article on his thoughts for CLA which seem to conflict with many people I have talked to.
http://www.udoerasmus.com/articles/udo/cla_summary.htm
I bought a bottle and have not taken it since I read his article. He seems to have a lot of evidense against it and people I have talked to say it works but isn't wonderful. So cost / benefit analysis to me was not worth it for me.
Note: He does create his own 'oil' so there could be a competitive thing going. But I trust him.
Steve
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 01:57 PM
I have no problem at all in getting thru the earlier portion of the day, I eat breakfast, 3 hours later I have a mid morning meal, 3 hours later I have lunch and by 3:00-3:30 (2 to 2 1/2 hours later) I'm famished ....... YEEEEESSSS, I'm eating plenty at lunch.......I'm getting in a good portion of protien, carb & veggie at lunch.
Today I had 1 1/2 cups lettuce with a portion of chicken breast, 1/4 cup salsa and 4-5 low carb tortilla chips, like I said PLENTY-------that was 2 hours ago.
I'll go ahead and eat something (usually a protein bar or cottage cheese & fruit).......then I'm fine until supper time (about 6:30-7:00)..............then I don't get hungry again
AT ALL.......but I have a little cottage cheese to get that protein my body needs thru the night.
I didn't have this problem on the first challenge........so, it's rather irritating.
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (530 posts) at 02:13 PM
Girl..1.5 cups of lettuce and 4 or 5 chips arent enough carbs IMO.
Try for more of a balance and see if it helps. I get that way sometimes too and when I started trackin my food on fitday I realized my carbs were WAYYYY too low.
Hope that helps
Body for Life Forum Message by Reagiesmom (383 posts) at 02:17 PM
Maybe a whole grain roll instead of the chips?
Body for Life Forum Message by Tai-Kee (2384 posts) at 02:20 PM
Is lettuce even classed as food? lol
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (530 posts) at 02:24 PM
OMG-I just looked up the nutritional value of lettuce-and TAIKEE youre right-it ISNT a food!! hahahaha
Agent- One cup of lettuce
6.6 calories
1.15 CARBS!!
Girl, no wonder youre starving!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 02:29 PM
technically it's a vegetable
but, yesterday I had tuna (w/ 1 tsp. lite mayo & 1 TBSP relish) on whole wheat bread
same situation.....hungry two hours later rather than the usual 3
thanks for the feedback though, I knew I could count on ya'll
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (213 posts) at 02:32 PM
I think the 3 PM "sinking spell" is quite common, especially for those who are working during the day in a stressful environment. I cannot explain why you didn't experience it the first challenge but for most people it is really the biggest threat to maintaining the diet and your sanity as well. It might well be (I'm speculating here) that for most of us, by that time in the work day there has been a significant amount of stress that has taken place. The combination of STRESS plus the normal time to snack being together, it really makes us feel like we're famished! I know it's not a normal snack, but on that time of the day I often take some brown rice, about a half cup, along with a couple of cups of water, and then either some white tuna or a small piece of chicken breast and it gets me through to dinner, which is usually about 6:30.
Body for Life Forum Message by gbfan (344 posts) at 02:56 PM
You might want to add some peanut butter, or a few nuts, or some good, healthy fats. Make sure you are eating ENOUGH. It may be your body telling you to up your portions a bit. That's a good problem to have!! People think I'm starving myself, cuz I'm losing weight, but I eat around 1800 calories a day.
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (942 posts) at 10:57 PM
I was going to to say what gbfan said! Your lunch should be your biggest meal, and add the good fats in(I usually have mine about an hour after meal 3 or 4) and that really gets me through. Let us know if that helps! :)
Body for Life Forum Message by FluffytoBuffy (1 posts) at 02:47 PM
I need some ideas for good snacks. Little things that can curb the want for salt or sugar that I can't go overboard with. Any suggestions?
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 02:51 PM
1/4 cup of the instant oats with 1 scoop of EAS 100% Vanilla whey protein powder. Mixed with a "little" water to make it like dough consistency. Add 1 TBS of PB tastes like oatmeal cookie dough. It's consistency should be thick.
Body for Life Forum Message by Kathcandu (193 posts) at 03:01 PM
Oatmeal Cookies
1/2 c oatmeal
1/4 egg whites
1/2 scoop protein powder
2 tbsps applesauce (unsweetened)
2 tbsps cinamon
Splenda to taste
Stir everything. Let oats soak up whites for a while. Make into four cookie shapes on sprayed cookie sheet. Bake (I use the toaster oven) at 300 for 10 minutes.
I eat these every day for a snack.
Body for Life Forum Message by Joe (a.k.a. Onyx) (112 posts) at 03:06 PM
1 Granny smith apple and 2-3 tablespoons natural Peanut Butter.
Slice apple (I have one of thos gizmos that cuts the apple into 8 pieces and a core), then put PB on each apple slice.
Protein, Fat and Good Cards in one snack!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (440 posts) at 03:27 PM
Low fat tortilla- a little spray butter, a sprinkle of cheese, salt to taste and nuke for about 4 minutes ( watch or it will burn)...its like a big salty buttery cracker- yum...
Body for Life Forum Message by Charliegirl (8 posts) at 04:11 PM
Sorry everyone! Im loaded with tons of questions (2 of which i can think of now!) and i get quick, awesome anwers from all of you!
1. Yoga? Can i still do it? If so, when (weight day, cardio day, both?)
2. Ok, im a self proclaimed cardio bunny. It obvioously wasnt helping with my goals so thats why i came to bfl. Anyways, it so hard for me to just go to the gym and do weights. I did 10 min LI elliptical today after my legs and it acutally felt like it helped stretch them out. Is this ok?
THanks!!
Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (37 posts) at 07:31 PM
I think as long as you are following the BFL exercise program, you can do yoga and elliptical afterwards. As far as when to do yoga, I'm not sure it matters.
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (942 posts) at 11:00 PM
Why don't you just do the elliptical for 10 minutes to warm up before the weights? (just don't go crazy on the resistance with it). I would say yoga you could do whenever as long as you do the BFL workouts and it dosn't tire you out or ruin your intensity.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 05:46 PM
OK since I have started the official challenge for Figure competition & BFL challenge I have been going all out on my workouts and diet. Strict as can be. Workouts doing all the cardio and pushing myself way out of my comfort zone. I have finally learned what it means to do this. Lift and LIFT HEAVY. As Nikki says "Don't waste my time...c'mon now". LOL. I don't think I am lifting that heavy right this moment but for starting out I am pushing myself and it is heavy to me right now. As before I would go easy on myself for the first week. Nope going all out. If it feels a little difficult I add 10-5 more pounds to make it really difficult. Some cases more. Usually I would start out my leg presses at 150lbs 3 set 12 reps. Nope I warmed up with 150 and then moved up for the last 2 sets at 200lbs. Not much but like I said it was a lot for my untrained legs. So I moved out of the comfort zone.
I am now officially one of those people that you hear and see when lifting. I find a focus point and when it gets tough I make those grunting sounds lol. I used to feel stupid doing that and embarrassed. Now I don't give a damn. I have felt very focused this week. It is funny I get in this zone while lifting all I am concentrated on is what I am doing at that very moment. It' slike tunnel vision. I know what I want and I know what it is going to take to get it. HARD WORK! So, as a result of just 3 days of this I am tired and I still have to go do some more cardio, throw some laundry in the wash, clean the kitchen. GAWD this is only week one! I know I can do this it is just adjusting to it.
It's funny because I came to the realization I now know what it means to push yourself out of your comfort zone. It is not easy! It's hard and can be very frustrating. Esp when your used to being able to push out an extra rep or two. But when you push yourself out of your comfort zone your sometimes lucky to make it to 6-8 and when you grab in for one more it just is not there! It is rewarding though, knowing you are working hard! Not to mention the physical feeling you get. Whew! I do find myself craving that feeling. Dizzy cross eyed feeling LOL.
Now I am starving! I swear! I have to eat every 3 hours! By hour 2 I am ready to eat and waiting for that 3rd hour is hell! ABSOLUTE HELL! I know it's just my body adjusting to it all. I mean I have gone from my stellar performance in December: 3 whole workouts and well eating was 50% on and 50% off YEA BABY! To my January: so far Lifting as heavy (in most exercises) as I was when I stopped training for the holidays. An added 1-2 hours of cardio a day with workouts. Extremley clean and precise eating. Now let me mention this is not ass busting cardio and I split the time up through out the day. So don't even think that I am doing an hour workout and then 2 hours of cardio. LMAO now that would kill me! Anyhow I just wanted to let you guys know that I have been super focused. I will keep you guys posted.
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (704 posts) at 06:32 PM
WOW Teresa YOu are soo ON this -- you're making me feel guilty girl! hmmmm..Maybe I need a training partner to come & kick my A#$!
seriously- It's AWESOME to see what you're doing & where you're going!
can't wait to see you up in the bright lights~!
Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (37 posts) at 08:31 PM
Is it true that you should have 1g per lb of body weight? If so I am probably getting only a little over half of what I should.
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (9 posts) at 09:08 PM
If your kidneys are in good shape, you can go higher than that. I try to get at least that, if not more.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 09:08 PM
That really depends on who you ask. Bodybuilders will say that 1g/lb is the minimum and the goverment will say that this is way too high. The Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) of protein according to U.S. government standards is 0.38g/lb
I eat close to 1.5g/lb
Body for Life Forum Message by TaraC29 (98 posts) at 09:11 PM
I think the RDA is wrong but I am no professional! LOL I am aiming for 1.5g per lb per day to really feed the muscle but it is hard to get it all in. I just started using fitday.com and think I will have greater results by tracking everything that way. Like Chuck said though, it depends on who you ask and I would say the 1 lb rule is pretty good.
Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (215 posts) at 09:27 PM
I heard unused protein converts to fat? is this true, or has anyone heard this?
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 09:30 PM
Unused anything can lead to fat gain, not just protein. The trick is not to overeat.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 09:30 PM
1oz= Is for the average person working out
1 1/2 oz= For Figure/ Fitness/ Bodybuilding
1 1/2-2oz= Male Body builder
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 10:09 PM
I would also like to add that if you are following BFL and eating 6 protein portions a day it would be hard not to eat 1g/lb.
I just want to make sure you are calculating your protein intake correctly. Do you mind posting a daily meal plan for yourself?
Body for Life Forum Message by Spiritfan (16 posts) at 10:23 PM
Weirdest thing happened this morning. Did my squats then one set of leg extensions. Proceeded with my dead lifts and then went to do my final excersise for hamstrings and started doing lunges...by my sixth or seventh, I went down and when I began going back up I felt my right leg (quad) starting to tighten and then all of a sudden heard a crack, snapple & pop (and no it wasn't the rice krispy men), I lost my balance and felt burning sensation in the upper right quad area. It's tight and hurts but it is not unbearable. Any ideas on what I could have done? Should I lay off of it for a week? I know it's hard to diagnose over the internet but if anyone has had any similar experience, I would appreciate you feeback and comments.
Thanks,
Karen
Spiritfan
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (942 posts) at 11:01 PM
SOunds like you should give it a rest and ice it, and see how it goes. THat does sound a little scary, though!
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2139 posts) at 02:36 PM
I got Designer Whey (chocolate) only because I happened to walk past it in Walmart - it tastes pretty good and disolves pretty quickly. Will be on the lookout for the coveted "black label" Optimum and try that too.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 12:14 PM
Thanks Guys that really helped!
Body for Life Forum Message by lovetorun (95 posts) at 01:06 PM
Yes thats right, I take caltrate with 600mg of calcium + vitamin D ( I believe 200 mg) twice a day with breakfast and supper.
I have also heard that about diet cola!! Scary!!
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (157 posts) at 07:19 AM
Hey, anyone used Muscle Armor yet?
Good, bad, eh?
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (356 posts) at 08:14 AM
without looking at the website, isnt it just another carb/protein based recovery drink?
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1551 posts) at 08:23 AM
bought it yesterday, i'll let you know in a few days. It's no where near a carb/protien based recovery drink. it's 15 gms of hmb combined with taurine, and some other aminos.
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (356 posts) at 08:28 AM
it IS a carb based recovery drink..although not high in carbs..but essentially its for recovery with some ingridients that have not been proven entirely effective
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (356 posts) at 08:33 AM
also think about this..on bb.com its 70 bucks for only 30 servings!! it recommends you take it twice daily..so the stuff is gone in 15 days..save your money
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (157 posts) at 08:57 AM
It's not for me. :) MY brother bless him is looking at doing a challenge this year. He's a hardgainer, so he's working on figuring out his post workout recovery plan.
I told him I'd ask around a bit and see if anyone had used it/had results yet. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 09:14 AM
He may find this article on pre/post workout nutrition helpful.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067
Body for Life Forum Message by Tracy06BFL (28 posts) at 12:45 PM
ordered mine...should be here any day. I'll let ya know after I take it for awhile.
Body for Life Forum Message by lovetorun (95 posts) at 01:09 PM
I wanted to try it too so I am curious to know how it is.
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (157 posts) at 05:49 PM
As I look at the list, I see several good things about it. In particular the inclusion of HMB is something I like.
I'll be curious to see how it does for folks. As of now, I'm telling my brother not to get it. He's on a tight budget. I told him to give me a month to get some user feedback. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (9 posts) at 11:29 AM
I bought stuff from them that I never recieved.. Had a hard time getting responses until I threatened reporting them to the BBB.. Well, apparently I'm not the only one..
Check this out:
http://search.buffalo.bbb.org/nis/newsearch2.asp?ID=1&ComID=0041000012000281
Their prices might be good, but you're lucky to get what you pay for.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 11:34 AM
wow, this really surprises me. I've been buying from them for the last 3 months and have had zero problems.
everything I've ordered has been in stock, and have received all that I ordered and received it in a timly manner.
sorry you didn't have the same experience.
Body for Life Forum Message by reneakleinisakson (430 posts) at 11:39 AM
I've actually had good experiences too, but it's always good to know when someone else didn't.
Body for Life Forum Message by BFL bride to be (11 posts) at 11:42 AM
Wow- I've been buying from them for 2 years consistently with no problems. Maybe I'll start looking elsewhere until they get their act together :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (9 posts) at 11:45 AM
The thing that surprised me most is the fact that they've had 59 (now 60) complaints in the last 3 years..
26 (27) in the last year and a GRAND TOTAL of 3 responses from the company, attempting to make things right.
How they stay in business, I have no idea.
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 11:46 AM
Okay....I JUST ordered from them....lets hope I have a better experience...I need my Myoplex like yesterday!
Body for Life Forum Message by ptwob2 (219 posts) at 11:47 AM
I've ordered from them for 2 years with no problems.
Body for Life Forum Message by SupaFreak (973 posts) at 11:49 AM
I'll stick with my original reccommendation of dpsnutrition.com.
Zero problems with them at all.
Danielle
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 11:49 AM
Ive heard bad things about them too. It seems like they are a legitimate business that just doesnt have their fecal matter in a bunch.
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (161 posts) at 07:58 PM
Yeah, I don't think they have it together... they charged me shipping on an item specifically marked "free shipping" and then wouldn't make it good. They did respond, but basically to say, "sorry 'bout your bad luck." They have lost my business, which is too bad. This is a pretty big network of people and we talk. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by amybluefish (Self-Removed Member) (1 posts) at 02:12 PM
I know this is not the best subject however, I would really like a kick start. Has anyone ever tried a weightloss product to help and has it worked??
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 02:33 PM
last one I tried that actually helped to curb my appetite was "ExtremeLean"
I've considered trying Cortislim....still haven't decided to buy it
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 09:21 AM
Lets hope Rie, you never know! Just kidding, this guy wouldn't hurt a fly!
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (356 posts) at 09:34 AM
whos scott perterson?
Body for Life Forum Message by 3D (54 posts) at 09:39 AM
Gary, you're kidding, RIGHT??????????
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (356 posts) at 09:42 AM
uh..sure..of course Im kidding!!!
no Im not (woefully ashamed)
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (356 posts) at 09:44 AM
oh shooot..THAT scott perterson!!! LOL
duh..after I clobbered myself with a hammer it came to me!
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 09:47 AM
LOL! You are too funny!
Body for Life Forum Message by 3D (54 posts) at 11:47 AM
he he he!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 12:18 PM
Oh yeah....cute couple. No Scott Peterson.
But that Raygeo is a hottie! whoo-hoo!
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (28 posts) at 12:54 PM
Mel!!
Why did I know nothing about this engagement? Why didn't you ask for my opinion before you accepted? I'm just kidding! Congratulations! Tell him that he did very good for himself! So have you picked a date yet?
BTW, I don't see a resemblance to Scott Peterson.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 02:10 PM
Because, you my dear, are NEVER on line and aren't sociable anymore! But no date yet, I am OK with a "long" engagement...too much on our plate right now as it is!
And Tcstone...yes Raygeo is a major hottie!!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (28 posts) at 02:13 PM
Never say never...there's still time for a new year's resolution...
Have you missed me?
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 02:19 PM
Yes...I have missed you a lot...I miss the good 'ol days (like it was a long time ago!) No one talks anymore, I've actually managed to get work done! Imagine that!
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (28 posts) at 02:54 PM
Well we certainly can't have that accounting work corrupt you. Please don't turn into one of those boring accountants. I like you the way you are, wild and crazy. I promise I'll be around more. If for no other reason to keep you young.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 03:09 PM
Thank you! I knew I liked you for a reason! ;P
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (28 posts) at 03:58 PM
I thought you liked me for other reasons ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 04:09 PM
Brat...we must be careful or others will suspect something! LOL!
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (28 posts) at 04:14 PM
I think it's too late for that...
They all know your engagement photo is just a cover. Well, they do now at least.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 04:18 PM
Rrrright :)
Body for Life Forum Message by GetNFit (760 posts) at 02:06 PM
Happy Birthday to you Wendy!!!!!!! Sorry Im late!
Robin
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 03:32 PM
Wow, I'm way late too! Happy Birthday Fellow Raygeo fan club member!
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (100 posts) at 03:56 PM
Happy belated birthday! Hope you had a great day!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 05:07 AM
I just watched Season 2 on Bravo all day Monday. I had no idea the show was that good!
Matt is my new hero ;)
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 05:04 AM
I remember seeing a documentary on cosmetic surgery a while back that had one woman get a breast reduction and another one get a breast enlargement. The doctor said that, in his experience, the ladies who get breast reductions are infinitly more happy with the results.
Good luck!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (9 posts) at 05:41 AM
I've been elected to speak on behalf of all the guys here.
We want before photos. Nothing too naughty, you see, but we would like to see exactly what is "Too big".
File this under education, like National Geographic.
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (942 posts) at 10:21 AM
I can hear all the guys reading this in their mind when the words "boobies" and "too big" are put in a sentence together-
"does not compute...does not compute...does not compute"
ROLF
Body for Life Forum Message by On~my~way (286 posts) at 10:40 AM
I had one almost six years ago! wished I had it done 10 years before that! PM if you want!
Body for Life Forum Message by Daaang Girl (24 posts) at 10:43 AM
Yeah, my husband is a little nervous about the whole thing. It may be done before he gets back (IF it's approved for insurance coverage). I read him all the responses to the thread, hoping to make him feel a little better about how many women were so happy with the results (notice there are no responses from what their husbands had to say..lol). All I got from all of the reading was "Clarification, I don't aggree with the more than a handful is a waste." and "I don't even have a picture of them, you'd better not post one there." LOL
He supports me with whatever I want to do and he doesn't want me to be in pain. I am sure he'd miss whatever they take, but HE doesn't have to carry them around and do cleavage checks. I actually have a code wor for my boobs trying to escape from my shirts. All of my friends know to say "pickles" when the girls try to make an unscheduled appearance. It's pretty amusing, really. As long as they're not too drunk they are quite subtle and no one notices. We've had conversations about their dog named Pickles. We've had comments made about how they do/do not like pickles. Or what brand of pickles is the best. Add too much alcohol and I've had one scream "PICKLES!" as she points to my chest while bursting out laughing. Mind you, they've never made it past the "double boob" phase (where it looks like you have two boobs on each side because they are poking out the top of the bra), thank goodness. But it could happen one day if something is not done.
Body for Life Forum Message by Goddessa (2109 posts) at 11:49 AM
Welcome back DG!!!! I can help you. I had a breast reduction in 2000. It was the best thing I ever did. I totally understand about bigger not being better LOL. Now I do have to warn you. After the breast reduction. I lost more breast tissue doing BFL. I went from a C cup to a B cup. Of course seeing as I slacked for 2 months I am back to a C cup LOL. Please feel free to PM me. I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. Lisa :D
Body for Life Forum Message by sas (58 posts) at 11:56 AM
I have personally had a reduction years ago and have several friends who have had them as well. Please feel free to ping me as well :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (9 posts) at 12:30 PM
With all these reductions going on, I think you should just donate the 'leftovers' to the poor members of the IBTC.
Body for Life Forum Message by Daaang Girl (24 posts) at 12:34 PM
Oh man, if I could swap some of my chest for some butt, I would be so happy. All of my weight is in front.. boobs and gut. No butt to balance it out in back or anything. It's amazing my feet don't have to be a size 12 just to keep me from tipping over. Maybe my toes are the strongest parts of my body....
Body for Life Forum Message by brancammom (3 posts) at 01:22 PM
I would gladly give you some of my butt. Thankfully, it is now shrinking a bit, but the more weight I gained, the more it started crawling up my back!!! My boobs are a different story, they used to be small and perky 34B's now they are pathetic deflated 38DD's so I know what you are going through. I have a feeling mine are going to get smaller, and more deflated as I lose weight so let me know what doctor you go to so I can schedule mine to be lifted!!!
Tammie
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (9 posts) at 05:42 AM
Is this what you talk about when we're not around?
Funny, because this is what we talk about, too.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 09:20 AM
You talk about support bras? Crazy!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 05:13 AM
Look at it this way, the rest you're forced to take now could help you kick it to another level when you get back ;)
Hope everything is ok
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1299 posts) at 07:04 AM
I am so sorry Tinkerbell, I know how disappointed you must be!! I hope you feel better real soon!!!! I wish you a speedy recovery!!!!
Hugs,
Sylvia aka Cookie1135
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 07:08 AM
bet you'll stay away from the pie filling cans from now on, right?
I hope your hand heals quickly, stay on that cardio & the LBWO's
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 08:40 AM
Oh I so feel our pain! When I had a strange injury. I was so "insert censored word here" mad! I was ful of fire and ready to go and then I go and get hurt. Baaahhhh but don't worry it's just a small amount of time and you will be back and ready to go sooner than you know it.
-T
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 05:00 AM
I bought the BFL book and success journal, so about $40 or so? The rest I consider I'll be spending on ME, not BFL ;)
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (100 posts) at 05:39 AM
I haven't really kept track of my spending on this, but I'd estimate several hundred dollars on the BFL book, myoplex, and some specific EAS supplements.
I don't consider my gym membership a BFL expense - I've had a membership for years, but a lot of the time not used it, or not used it wisely.
Same for vitamins and general supplements, I was doing this prior to BFL anyway.
As far as costs when NOT following BFL or a healthy lifestyle...
I'd estimate several thousand dollars on doctors, naturopaths, osteopaths, physios, and chiropractors as I developed more and more back/neck/shoulder problems and suffered from long term fatigue as I ate unhealthy food and put on more and more body fat.
And tens of thousands of dollars in lost income through having to take time of work (I work on contract so every sick day is lost income for me) and several 6-12 month long breaks between contracts due to long term fatigue, stress, and back problems.
And don't even get me started on the money spent on hardly worn clothes that I kept growing (or bursting) out of ;-)
So for me BFL, and a healthy lifestyle, is definitely WORTH IT!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (100 posts) at 05:45 AM
P.S. Interesting thread helpdial, I reckon lots of people look at a BFL lifestyle and think quality food (especially all our protein) and supplements are expensive... but it's nothing compared to the potential costs that come with poor nutrition and a lack of exercise.
And I reckon I spend less on my myoplex and supplements per day than a lot of people would spend on their morning latte :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 05:52 AM
Well unless you are doing an official challenge, you dont have to buy any suppliments at all. A good diet plan and intense workouts are much better than any suppliment!
You might also want to consider how much money you might be spending on fast food and other expensive food sources. When you make your own food, its much cheaper it just takes longer.
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (356 posts) at 05:55 AM
you will notice this is expensive..whether you use supplements or not..Im sure you saw your grocery bill jump up a little! I know myself I spend at least 200 bucks extra on "good" food alone, on top of our other grocery stuff..so probably each month Im spending in total 300-350 on my transformation a month
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (100 posts) at 05:58 AM
You're so right about the expensive fast food chuckdiesel!
And it's funny how quickly I can make my own food now that I've made the decision to do it. I reckon I can make a meal easily within the time I used to spend going out to pick up takeaways.
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 06:10 AM
I look at the expense as preventative mainenance....tune ups on a car can be pricey as well, but cheaper than the alternatives ;)
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 07:02 AM
my estimate is 180.00; the cost of BFL & BFL, protein powder, protein bars & creatine. This cost is for both my husband & myself.
I don't include the cost of food, for the most part my purchasing didn't change except for the increase in the # of eggs and the amount of cottage cheese purchased. I deleted the junk food I was buying and replaced it with more healthy food.....about evens out.
And I don't include my gym membership, because I've had it for a few years.
The amount of money I will save on medical expenses will far outweigh the amount of cost of doing BFL.
My husband is diabetic (as some of you know) and this is the most regulated his blood sugar has been in years....his levels had been ranging from 280-350 pre-BFL and in the last two months it has been in the range of 150-180; in addition he lost 19 lbs. the first go 'round.
BFL hasd given me far more than it has cost me.......and in 2006 I will gain even more.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 07:02 AM
sorry----that was supposed to be BFL & EFL
Body for Life Forum Message by Tai-Kee (2384 posts) at 07:11 AM
I don't use supplements, I just eat real foods.
Body for Life Forum Message by TJ (593 posts) at 07:28 AM
If I looked at my ‘outgo’ as an spending, I think I’d go nuts. So I look at it as an investment. I am investing in a better lifestyle. I am investing in my health. I am investing in increasing my longevity. And I invest about $150 to $200 per month. BUT, I simply channel my old ‘junk food’ expenditures into healthier foods and supplements, so it’s pretty much a wash!
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1551 posts) at 08:27 AM
i figure a lot but every penny has been worth it
Body for Life Forum Message by shkelly (162 posts) at 08:34 AM
Well so far I have spent $0. I spent about $150 on supplements back in 2003 but EAS reimbursed me $400 so I made money, lol. They also gave me $1000 in vouchers that I have just now used up. I did buy protein powder from Walmart but I have figured out how to make all my meals average about $1 so I am not spending anymore on food then I was before BFL. It is totally worth it to spend money on bettering yourself!! I mean what is the point in saving money if you won't live long enough to enjoy it?? Kind of ironic how most people spend their lives, huh??? I for one plan to LIVE!!!
Shelly =)
Body for Life Forum Message by helpdial911 (20 posts) at 06:51 PM
Sporty I really like your response as well as others. This is an investment to yourself that will last a lifetime. I have spent some money on supplements but if they make me stronger and healthier then every penny was worth it.
I took my kids to Mickey D's today to play in the playground and to see the people that go in there overweight and spend $6.00 on a crappy lunch is beyond me. It was all I could do to not eat anything, but seeing everyone gorge themselves with fat was enough to not eat anything or spend the money on it.
Body for Life Forum Message by Ngo Excuses (71 posts) at 09:18 AM
Until I have the courage to post my current b4 pics...(waiting to finish this challenge w/after pics), I posted pics of my 5 little inspirations...& tell you of our focus tactic..
My older 3 keep me on track everyday...they always ask if I did my workout & if what I'm eating is allowed...
I told them that everytime I finish a challenge we will have a mini celebration party on free day & they get to plan the day...in their mind...it is a done deal...which really helps me stay focused...we have a count down daily!
Just thought I'd share!!!
Denise
Body for Life Forum Message by GetInShape (52 posts) at 09:31 AM
Hi Denise, I just checked your profile and see you have a beautiful family. Good luck on your challenge.
Body for Life Forum Message by Blondie26 (176 posts) at 09:42 AM
You go girl that is an awsome way to stay on track.
Your baby's are so cute!
Body for Life Forum Message by LOVE4KIDS (33 posts) at 03:39 PM
Ngo Excuses said:
Until I have the courage to post my current b4 pics...(waiting to finish this challenge w/after pics), I posted pics of my 5 little inspirations...& tell you of our focus tactic..
My older 3 keep me on track everyday...they always ask if I did my workout & if what I'm eating is allowed...
I told them that everytime I finish a challenge we will have a mini celebration party on free day & they get to plan the day...in their mind...it is a done deal...which really helps me stay focused...we have a count down daily!
Just thought I'd share!!!
Denise
Body for Life Forum Message by LOVE4KIDS (33 posts) at 03:41 PM
OOPs! Didn't mean to do that! What I meant to say is...............Hi Denise. I have four children to inspire me everyday. I love your Idea about the mini celebrations! I am going to try that with my kids so they will help me stay on track. Karyn
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 12:47 PM
Actually, I think you were probably more controlled than I would have been in that circumstance. I don't have a high tolerance for stupidity in any avenue, something I should probably work on.
As for the why's, I couldn't say. But I don't think you did anything wrong. It's not like you got out of the car and threatened her or anything.
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by sas (58 posts) at 12:54 PM
OMG - I totally feel your pain and have terrible road rage. It's so frustrating when people are passive drivers, not paying attention or off in their own little world of driving rules.
It seems that most people have no idea how one small action impacts everyone behind them. Like slamming on their brakes etc...
My husband recently got a brand new cruiser motorcycle and was riding down on a beach drive 30mph. He and another driver, in the day time mind you... stopped for pedestrians and a young girl behind them had turned around to look at her baby (and she must have been facing away from the road for awhile because they were stopped for a while) rear - ended him. His new bike that he had for 3 weeks almost totalled.. he was fine thankfully just so upset.
THEN!! He got the bike back for 1 week and was riding it home on another 30mph road and a driver in a VERY well lit area started to pull out in front of him, stopped and then just went ahead an pulled out... he had to dump the bike. Fortunately, he was ok again but the bike was out of commission for another 6 weeks. And it's no longer new!
Long story short ;-) It's crazy out there on the roads!
Body for Life Forum Message by Blondie26 (176 posts) at 03:07 PM
Ok, I was just on Bodybuilding.com; is anyone using Muscle Milk. I was just wondering how good it is and if its cool to help with weightloss and muscle gain. The calories are oh my god high and the fat is 18grahams.
I would love some insight on this product. I'm more or less brain storming right now.
Thanks,
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (530 posts) at 03:14 PM
I use it and mix it into my oatmeal-(use 1/2 serving). Its soooo YUMMY.
Ive asked a few experienced fitness friends and they said its OK to use occassioanlly and the fats are good fats.
Body for Life Forum Message by TaraC29 (98 posts) at 03:20 PM
I haven't used it but have heard a lot about it. From what I've read the fats are wayyyy to high, even if they are good. If your goal was to bulk up then it would be great but not so much for weight loss. Plain whey protein powder is much better IMO...you could always liven it up with Splenda or natural pb(which makes everything great!)
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 03:24 PM
Hehehe yes it is very good and I will tell you exactly what I was told by my workout partner who was Ms.Fitness USA 2000 lol I am just stating this so you know it's not just from any ol' person lol....
"Why not go down the street and order a milkshake at Burger King? It's a lot cheaper and has the same amount of Fat."
I was like OMG when she told me that. I mean I had read the label and saw them but ooohhhh my mind wanted to believe this tasty treat was going to help me lean down. LOL... I was having a lot of problems leaning out while using Muscle Milk. Then I was told why. She also asked:
"Are you trying to gain weight?"
Yea I got it from all ends when I told her about the MM LMAO. Sorry I had to share my experience with it. It is darn tasty though but if your trying to lean out I would stay away from it or maybe have it on a cheat day?
As far as protein shakes I would suggest sticking with Whey protein Products. EAS 100% Whey is pretty tasty better than there other Whey they had. Also Optimum Nutrition is really good esp. mixed with skim milk mmmmmm just a whole lot less fat than MM. I strictly only use water right now though and they still taste pretty good. Hope that helps. ;-)
Body for Life Forum Message by wahine808 (15 posts) at 05:36 PM
I am a bred and born Trojan, so of course I'd like to see them win, but Texas will be tough!
All of the bowl games have been really good this season - did you see Penn St vs FSU last night?
Body for Life Forum Message by TreeStand (86 posts) at 05:52 PM
I fell asleep last night, and missed it. Definately one of the instant classics for ESPN.
I'm a Hokie fan, but I am pullin for USC... Leinart staying behind for the education ( at least I hope that was the main goal, I don't know him personally ) meant a lot to me and I hope the other kids that come behind him.
Body for Life Forum Message by Nicabod (33 posts) at 06:00 PM
I hope they tie with 0-0. GO SOONERS!!
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 06:18 PM
HOOK'EM HORNS!
HOOK'EM HORNS!
HOOK'EM HORNS!
With love from Austin Texas!
And yes this will be a tough game!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (533 posts) at 06:20 PM
Go Buckeyes!!! Oh Yeah, that game was the other night.
Body for Life Forum Message by hogken (10 posts) at 06:37 PM
im for the horns because i live in texas and the trojans hung 70 pts on my beloved Razorbacks!
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (147 posts) at 06:48 PM
I'm a proud member of the Southern Californians for Southern California!
FIGHT ON!
BTW TreeStand, the education that Matt stayed around for was ballroom dance class. He didn't have much to do this year academically. Not that I know him, either. Just what we read in the papers. He was very close to his degree last year.
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by wahine808 (15 posts) at 07:15 PM
Nicabod my husband loves OU, but watching them get stomped last year was no fun at all!
I was going to add that about Matt. My dad, who is the biggest USC dork in the world and is at the game today (and Tom is your neighbor in Huntington Beach, btw, lol) said that Reggie is eligible to gradutate very soon. He completed his education in 3 1/2 years or something. Did anyone else tear up at his acceptance speech for the Heisman?
OK, kick off is soon!
P.s. my mom wanted to come over with a batch of margaritas - I am staying strong and saying no!
Body for Life Forum Message by jansen (146 posts) at 07:25 PM
Being a Longhorn Baby......Hook'em Horns! My entire family won't even answer the phone during this game!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by TreeStand (86 posts) at 07:34 PM
kinda figured, still pretty decent testament turning down millions of nfl money
Body for Life Forum Message by wahine808 (15 posts) at 11:33 PM
Oh I am so bummed, but what a good game. However, if Texas had had that touchdown reviewed (why didn't pete call a TO???) it wouldn't have counted.
Sigh.
Oh well.
I refuse to drown my sorrows in cookie dough ice cream tho!
Body for Life Forum Message by Daaang Girl (24 posts) at 08:04 PM
I always get this when I drink margaritas. It's a sharp pain right at my jawline. WHAT the heck is that??? I'm having it right now and I SWEAR I haven't even LOOKED at tequilla in quite a while!!! I didn't have anything tart. It's really beginning to hurt. ack!!
What the heck causes that and how do I get rid of it?!?! Yeowch!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 11:39 PM
Enough said!
Oh wait a wooooooohooooooooooo yyyyiiiiiiipppppppppeeee HELL YEA!!!!!!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (82 posts) at 11:44 PM
Congrats to Texas. Being an Oklahoma Sooner fan I would not normally root for the Longhorns, but thanks for keeping the OU 47 win streak intact.
That was definitely one of the best games I've ever seen.
Brian
Body for Life Forum Message by wdrew (249 posts) at 11:45 PM
AWSOME game! Tuesday's Penn State/Florida State game and tonights game were both utterly fantastic and worth the loss of sleep. Vincent Young is a friggin stud!
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 11:48 PM
Yes he rocks!!!!! I LOVE HIM!!! Here is what I wrote at the beginning of the season.. on 8/29/05 hmmmm I hate to say but do you believe me now?;-)
Ok, I am so looking forward to this football season!!!!! I have one name for all of you VINCE YOUNG! I have watched this kid from the moment he has started with UT. My husband has told me about him since he was a senior in high school. This kid is a freak! He is amazing and his talent is beyond anyones belief. Take a good look everyone this is your next NFL superstar! Mark my words! His jaw dropping plays will literally do that to you as you watch him. I know the first time I saw him play I was like holy mother of god! Where in the heck did this guy come from. Needless to say, I am so excited about this upcoming season. Who wouldn't be with a player like this. And who knows with his talent being so incredible, almost mystical this might be his last year with us as a junior. As my husband said, "he could just end up being the #1 draft pick as a senior, and he would be nuts to pass up a 9 mil a yr. contract". I have to agree.
It is amazing to see how much this kid has grown and matured as well. Not only in his plays and talent. But also his physique. He was almost gazelle like when was a freshman. Now look at him. I guess if you gonna be a Quarterback and a Running back you better get some mass on you. Esp. if your gonna be running the ball with those 250 & 300 lb lineman going after you! I mean look at this picture below! This happens so much through a game. And he has become even more clever about when he chooses to run with it. I mean it is like shaaabammmm and no one can catch him. And it's another score by Vince Young. Yeah, every one don't blink you don't want to miss this one! So if you can, even if you are not a UT fan, be sure to check out a game if you can. Might want to check this guy out before he really hits the big time. I know it has been a pleasure watching him since his freshman year. Yeah he was out on the field as a "freshman", thats gotta tell you something! HOOK'EM HORNS!
That was an awesome game! What a game played by both teams!
Body for Life Forum Message by wahine808 (15 posts) at 11:50 PM
It was a really good game, much better than last year's. However, if the officials had tossed the hankie on Vinnie, who was down before he flipped it to the other guy for a TD, we'd be singing a different song - Conquest!
Sigh.
Fight on.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 11:56 PM
Thats alright Reggie can have the Heisman.... looks like Vince might just get another shot and we uhmm are NAT'L CHAMPS Woooohooooooo! LOL Ok gloating done I promise. Ok maybe not! I have waited a long time for this damn it!
YIIIIIPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 09:44 AM
Keep in mind that a portion of the good foods have less calories and fat and all the other nasty things that keep people overweight than a portion of bacon cheeseburger from the fast food place.
While it feels like you're eating a lot of food, you're getting less of the junk that keeps the weight on, so you still lose weight. In addition, since you're full, you don't have the desire to binge on junk, so it's all good :)
Tom
Who asked that same question once on another forum
Body for Life Forum Message by shibox (8 posts) at 12:49 AM
In eating for life, if there's no other protein usually 2 whole eggs are a serving, or (better) 1 whole egg and 3 egg whites. Although the servings there are for an "average" person. So if you're a petite female, you'll need to scale that down, or if you're a 6'5" male, you may need a bit more.
Scrambled vs. hardboiled doesn't matter as long as you're not scrambling in oil or butter.
Hope this helps!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 09:42 AM
Ok folks, I'm preparing my grocery list for my first week of my challenge. One thing I refuse to do is eat nasty. I love my food to taste yummy nad learned a long time ago you can eat healthy and no sacrifice taste. That said, I'm not sure about my condiment option with BFL. I want to stick to the program faithfully, at least for the first challenge, and I'm not sure what my options are.
Fat-free mayo?
BBQ Sauce?
Ketsup?
Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. The only thing I have to rule out is hot sauce and other spicy stuff. I hate spicy.
Thanks,
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 10:09 AM
Im sorry you dont like spicy stuff because I believe spicy food is AWESOME :)
That being said, I think one of the best condiments out there is worcestershire sauce. It tastes great on scrambled eggs and is very low cal/sodium.
Ms. Dash is also a great option to flavor your food with. I also use those 3 you mentioned as well. The only thing I try to stay away from is full sodium soy sauce and full fat salad dressings
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (327 posts) at 11:50 AM
Here is a list of condiments I use and have had success with BFL:
Ketchup - I bought one of those squirters like they have at fast food places and it comes out in a really thin line versus a giant glob, this way a little goes a long way.
Mustard - any kind
Relish - in tuna
Fat Free Mayo - no more than 1-2 teaspoons
Newman's Low Fat Balsalmic Vinigrette - up to 2 tablespoons on a salad
Montreal Chicken/Steak Seasoning - for seasoning grilled meat
Mrs. Dash when I'm really watching the sodium or on super lean down eating
Cinnamon - oatmeal, apples and cottage cheese
Butter Buds or Molly Mc Butter
If I think of any more, I'll let you know.
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (327 posts) at 11:52 AM
Oh yes, BBQ sauce, I use that on BBQ Chicken Pizza, I don't see a problem with 1 Tablespoon for dipping chicken, but if you use Montreal Chicken Seasoning, you really don't need anything to dip it in. Also, I did want to mention that Mrs. Dash is on the spicy side, I think. I don't mind spicy, but my kids won't eat it.
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1551 posts) at 11:56 AM
if you buy real balsamic vinegar it's fat free and then add a tbs of good quality olive oil you've got an awesome salad dressing that's high in efa's which is good.
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 12:00 PM
Thanks folks! Greatly appreciated!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by wahine808 (15 posts) at 05:38 PM
Great question - I wanted to know too!
BTW, I second (or third!) the MOntreal seasoning - yum!
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (213 posts) at 06:03 PM
Condiments? Haven't used them since high school--oh, wait! Oh, never mind! I thought you meant, uh, well, but you are talking about spices, right? Whew! I thought that this might have been the ultimate off-topic thread for a moment there.
Body for Life Forum Message by 4sweetums (4 posts) at 09:55 AM
So, I have a question...I made these this morning for me and my hubby. They were really good and I LOVE pancakes. In the EFL book the receipe says it serves 2. Well, when you make all of the pancakes using 1/4C. scoop you have quite a few pancakes...8 to be exact. So, should we both really have 4 pancakes...:0/
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 10:13 AM
Without my book in front of me, that sounds right.
I never really measured them into 1/4 cup scoops though. I make them in single servings (.5C Cottage cheese/.5C oatmeal/3 egg whites) and make one huge pancake for myself :)
Body for Life Forum Message by reagan123 (112 posts) at 12:42 PM
i've never tried to make them, is it possible to screw this up :)
thanks for any feedback.
Body for Life Forum Message by truetoome (7 posts) at 12:49 PM
I guess if you over cook them they get harder or tough. if you boil them for about 15 to 20 minutes you should be good. The yolk inside should be dark yellow or like a grey yellow when boiled. Just keep water in the pan and keep them covered.
Body for Life Forum Message by TreeStand (86 posts) at 01:01 PM
yup, just to add here too little = soft boiled
15 minutes after the boiling water starts rollin
Body for Life Forum Message by reagan123 (112 posts) at 01:04 PM
do you keep it on a high boil the entire time or do you turn it down a bit once the water starts to boil....
that's the last question i have on these things :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (487 posts) at 01:06 PM
I've settled on this method, and it turns out perfect (yellow hard yolks) hard-boiled eggs every time (thanks to Martha Stewart):
1. Place eggs in a large saucepan. Cover them with cool water by 1 inch. Slowly bring water to a boil over medium heat; when the water has reached a boil, cover and remove from heat. Let sit 12 minutes.
2. Transfer eggs to a colander; place under cool running water to stop the cooking. Eggs can be peeled and served immediately. Remaining eggs, with shells on, may be refrigerated in an airtight container for up to 3 days.
(Only I don't transfer my eggs anywhere. I simply dump the hot water and refill the pan with cold water.)
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (5 posts) at 01:12 PM
Hot Body's method is the same as I learned from some very sweet Grandmas !!
It works great and the yolks don't get that grayish color around them.
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (327 posts) at 02:27 PM
Definately run cold water over them after you drain them, if you don't they'll be hard to peel.
Body for Life Forum Message by Daaang Girl (24 posts) at 07:49 PM
I cooked up 6 servings this morning to save time this week before school. I did this once before and put the protein powder in it before I put it in the fridge. Then I just scooped it out in the mornings for breakfast. It was kinda gritty and didn't really seem "right" to me. Is adding the protein powder to the cooked oatmeal and storing it for a couple days bad? I just put the oatmeal in the fridge plain this time and figure I can add the protein individually. Is there a problem either way? Sugestions??
Body for Life Forum Message by rbsamy (380 posts) at 08:21 PM
I love it. But i have never tried making it ahead of time. can't help ya
Body for Life Forum Message by Pixy (359 posts) at 08:28 PM
I tried it once and was told to make the protien shake then use that as your liqued in the oatmeal. I added it after it was cooked and it was bad.
Body for Life Forum Message by TaraC29 (98 posts) at 08:55 PM
I have this almost every morning and I just put my scoop of protein powder in with the water to cook it in the microwave then when it is done I add about 1/8C of 1%milk to make it creamy. This morning I used my banana powder and when it was done I put a tablespoon of applesauce in it. It was really good!
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (942 posts) at 11:14 PM
It would probably be better to mix UN cooked oatmeal and protein powder, then put them in little tupperware bowls, then in the morning just grab the little bowl, add your water and nuke it for a minute or 2. You could even put the cinnamon and/or Splenda in ahead of time, too. Would that be fast enough for ya, speedy??
:D
Body for Life Forum Message by Daaang Girl (24 posts) at 07:54 PM
OK, it's like I've never done this stuff before..lol. I used to buy frozen turkey burgers at Sam's. I got some tonight and cooked two. Only THEN did I peek at the label, just out of curiosity. These are NOT the same pattied I used to get! These are like 320 calories!!! 21g of FAT! and 27g of protein!!!! HOLY SCHNIKIES BATMAN!!!!
I think they collected all the laziest, fattest turkies out there to make these things!!!! Would the fat content be OK if I just ate half?? How much fat are we supposed to be eating with each meal? And.. where the heck can I get the lighter frozen turky patties?? They went and switched my good patties up with fatty patties (snicker). Lordy be...
Body for Life Forum Message by Pixy (359 posts) at 08:32 PM
That sucks
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (327 posts) at 08:42 PM
I would hate to see you waste money and not eat them, but 21 grams is a lot of fat for one meal, for me 21 grams would be close to my daily maximum. 1/2 would be okay but that would be a small meal portion of protein.
I would eat a whole one with some low glycemic fruit, be extra careful on your other meals and get rid of them quickly or save them for your free day (boring...) or feed them to the kids (right!) or give them to the dog if you have one.
You have to be careful with those turkey burgers, they are tricky. Maybe you could buy some extra lean turkey at the grocery store and make your own to freeze.
Body for Life Forum Message by TaraC29 (98 posts) at 09:08 PM
That is a lot! I wonder why yours were so fattening? I have some in the freezer called Honeysuckle White Lean Turkey Patties and they are 160 cal, and 8 grams of fat. You oughta ask for a refund! LOL
Since were on burgers, I just tried some of the BEST veggie burgers...they are "Morning Farms Grillers Prime" and I think it is way better than a regular patty. It has 170 cal and 9 grams of fat. I had one for lunch today on a single piece of ww bread, lettuce and some salsa. DELICIOUS!
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (942 posts) at 11:10 PM
Yikes! Thats so lame that they did that to you! lol I get the frozem boca bugers or whatever they are, YUM! I'd probably just save them for free day. Serioulsy, if you havn't opened them Id take them back!
Body for Life Forum Message by Robin78745 (11 posts) at 11:43 PM
Agreed- The best, best frozen burgers are boca.... I promise if you try them you'll never go back: 15 grams protein, 3 grams fat, plus, fiber too. Their sausages are good too.
Body for Life Forum Message by reagan123 (112 posts) at 08:42 AM
Here's a quick true story... I did a challenge and lost about 24lbs. Then I went into "maintenance mode", Now i'm back to where I started 208lbs. :)
I'm sure some people can ween off the diet and eat little amounts of unhealthy foods, but I have proven to myself that I can't.
Good Luck with whatever you do. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (327 posts) at 12:00 PM
I have always done 5lb increments on everything except for smith machine squats and the leg press. Sometimes I have to do 2.5lbs increments, you just need to listen to your body. I think 10lbs is too big of a jump.
Nicabod, I have the same problem with 15lbs being too easy and 20's being too heavy. I have tried switching my exercises to another machine to build up more strength and then going back to dumbbells. I have heard they make 1lb magnetic plates that attach to dumbells to help with that problem.
Body for Life Forum Message by jsturgeon64- (3 posts) at 09:35 AM
I just started jan 2, 2006, and I am having trouble figuring out the intensity thing also, it is hard to gauge what is a 5 or 8 I think I have what a 9 and 10 are.
Body for Life Forum Message by biffler (226 posts) at 11:32 AM
a 9 or 10 should feel like....
every second is lasting for a minute (at least that's how it feels for me!)
People at the gym should be wondering WTF you are doing on that elliptical trainer (or cardio machine of choice)
the saliva in your mouth should get sticky and icky :) making water taste like fine champagne
and after a few weeks of doing this, you will see better results than anyone else who just isn't giving it all they've got!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (501 posts) at 11:35 AM
WOW biffler..... you must be watching me on the stairmaster.....you got it down sister, that's exactly what it feels like
atlast I'm doing one thing right
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 01:23 PM
Okay....how do I do these without hurting my shoulders and neck?
In order to get the right weight to challenge my legs, I end up straining something else.
Any suggestions? I am following several books/websites/guidelines for doing them right...which I am certain I am...but I don't know how to get around the shoulder/neck sorness problem.
Teresa
Body for Life Forum Message by Can'tStopMe (453 posts) at 01:28 PM
Teresa, you shouldn't be feeling it in your neck (???).
When I do DL, I keep my shoulders back, back straight, and always keep your head up and looking forward. Also, don't let your hand drop below your ankles.
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 01:51 PM
well, it isn't totally in my neck. Just pulling the shoulders because of the weight.
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 01:51 PM
well, it isn't totally in my neck. Just pulling the shoulders because of the weight.
Body for Life Forum Message by Can'tStopMe (453 posts) at 02:02 PM
are you using dumbbells or a barbell?
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 02:20 PM
barbell
I started with 20 lbs (known how much the bar was) then went up to 50.
Teresa
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (213 posts) at 02:42 PM
Hmmmm. It is really difficult to tell you what is the problem without seeing you actually doing the lift, but I have just a couple of thoughts. One is that the more the weight swings out in front of you the more stress is placed on the low back and the shoulders area. It is KEY to make sure that the bar starts out right at the shins and never leaves them. Don't let it out in front of you at all. Second, make sure you have somewhat of an arch (flexion) rather than a rounding of the low back and carry the head up and forward, looking straight in front or even up during the entire lift. If you're still feeling some stress in the shoulders, try reducing the weight. Really, the deadlift is as much or more about the back than anything else. If you can, the best bet for legs is barbell squats, or Smith machine squats, and extensions and curls.
Body for Life Forum Message by TaraC29 (98 posts) at 02:55 PM
You really should not be feeling it in your neck. Are you keeping your feet less than shoulder width apart and knees just barely bent? This is how I do them for hamstrings and I don't feel it much until I'm done...then they kill me. Try lowering your weight a bit (maybe 2 15 lbs dumbells) and watching your form and not bending your knees when you let the weight down. I love doing these for my hams, they have really made my legs stronger!
Body for Life Forum Message by ptwob2 (219 posts) at 03:08 PM
I disagree guys. Deadlift is a compound full body exercise. When done correctly it places stress on many different parts of the body. It targets the legs and the lower back, but I have found that occasionally I also feel it in my neck, shoulders, forearms, hips, and even (strangely enough) my lats and obliques. Squats are GREAT but deadlifts are essential too for a well rounded , full-body core strengthening type of fitness regime. Lift Hard!
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 03:13 PM
I was doing them for my Hamstring exercises....per the BFL book.
Is this what you all do them for?
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1029 posts) at 03:42 PM
ptwob2: Yes I did them the other day and my lats were sore LOL!
Answer to your ? I will attempt seeing as I can't see you do them. Are you rounding your back on the way up and down? If so that is your source of neck problems. Are you looking down the entire time while going down and up? Instead of looking straight forward at one spot in front of you the whole time up and down. Are you starting out with straight legs instead of bending down to get the BB? When you should reach down with bent knees keeping your back flat and straight shoulders square not falling forward. Also on the way down you will have a slight bend in the knees as well not completely straight legged.
Go through that check list. Your doing one of those things to make you neck hurt. I know what pain your talking about and it is not sore pain. It's from lifting with incorrect form. ;-) Be careful I hope this helps some.
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 03:52 PM
Well, I have done something wrong. Obviously not as correct as I thought. My neck is so sore right now I can barely move or turn it to the left. blah. I hate this kind of dumb soreness. I hope my Lower Body kills tomorrow from DOMS just to make up for this!
Rounding the back?--no, trying to keep my back stright.
I was looking down since this was the first time and I was looking at a book, but only on the first few...then I was looking forward. I think.
My whole set is with bent knees--bent knee deadlifts....I bend down pick up the bar and lift with my legs, keep the arms straight and in the same position.
Yeah, I don't know what I did. But it was wrong, even though I thought I was right. grr....hate that. I'll try again though keeping all these things in mind.
Thanks. It is heat for muscles, right? I see a heating pad in the near future for me.
Teresa
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 03:54 PM
Regular deadlifts are not for hamstrings.
Stiff leg deadlifts are for hamstrings and are done a little bit differently. What page is the exercise in the BFL book?
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (635 posts) at 06:24 PM
This is not in the BFL book, but rather the little read book they send with the BFL registration...or at least this is how I got it. I also got another copy from Cheryl when she was sending out the t-shirts she got from BFL.
They have four exercises for each body part....under Hamstrings is Decline Leg Curls, Bent Leg Deadlifts, Lying Leg Curls and Straight-Leg Deadlifts.
Of course this little book does not have page numbers, but you can't miss it...there are only 4 exercises and 2 pictures for each exercise.
Does anyone else have this books? Deadlifts are very much for the Hamstrings.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 09:27 PM
Okay, there are so many different deadlifts out there. Regular, Romanian, Sumo, Stiff Leg aka straight-leg...etc
Regular deadlifts are not for the hamstrings. Its mainly a quad and back exercise although it is a compound movement and it involves a lot of different muscles.
The best video I can come up with for a straight-leg deadlift does not go down far enough in my opinion. His form is perfect for hitting the hams, he just needs to take it all the way to the ground.
Hope this helps. -Chuck
Body for Life Forum Message by nola (30 posts) at 08:22 PM
We are in the process of s-l-o-w-l-y putting our house back together after Hurricane Katrina blew in, so I am doing A LOT of painting this week. So far this week I have painted two large bedrooms by myself, two coats each (since the drywall is new). AND like a lot of others, I started a new challenge on Jan. 2. I have kept up with my workouts "by the book", but I am wiped out tonight. Does week 1 of BFL normally wipe you out?
I have 2 more bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a kitchen, the foyer and then ALL of the trim and 20 doors to paint still. I better be really buff by the time I finish with all that AND this challenge!
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1551 posts) at 12:00 PM
LMAO you women are hilarious, sometimes I wonder if you're more fixated with your boobs than we are :)~
Body for Life Forum Message by JamsN4 (7 posts) at 12:16 PM
This is great info and the timing couldn't be better. On a quest for the most effective supplements. Thanks for the insight!
Body for Life Forum Message by wahine808 (15 posts) at 12:20 PM
Re: adding a carb to make it a meal...
Mine has 4 grams of carbs already - should I add more to make it a meal? TIA
(and sorry for hijacking your thread Abbie!)
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (487 posts) at 12:24 PM
I just had an idea, and it looks like someone was brilliant before me:
http://www.cafepress.com/buy/got%20soy/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.13114694/pNo_13114694/id_5097721/opt_/fpt_/c_/hlv_t
Body for Life Forum Message by Tai-Kee (2384 posts) at 12:25 PM
instead of adding ice, you could also add some frozen fruit kept in the freezer for such occasions.
Not only does it ad your carb portion, but it makes it a nice fruit flavoured snack!
My favs are chocolate blended up with either frozen bananas or strawberries.
hmm hmm good!
Body for Life Forum Message by JerryBraam.com (85 posts) at 07:37 PM
Use what ever amount of H20 that creates a consistant texture you find most palatable...then follow with additional fluids if needed...
I use 15-25 oz of H20 per/pk of MyoPlex original, deluxe & sport!
EAS Precision Protein powder & Muscle Drive HP...Most of the time I use about 6-9 oz H20 for every 20gm of Whey isolate protein. If it is a blend...usually more water.
With a nutrition bar containing 20gm of blended protein, Usally at least 15oz H20 is sufficient to transport the nutrients.
JB
Body for Life Forum Message by jshelton (1674 posts) at 01:10 AM
Sorry for the late response but I can see big improvement. You may only be a few pounds down but you are definitely leaner and more muscular. How about tracking all your measurements?
Jim
Body for Life Forum Message by Ngo Excuses (71 posts) at 10:53 AM
AWESOME GARY!
You are sooo on your way!
Congrats!
Denise
Body for Life Forum Message by Tracy06BFL (28 posts) at 11:12 AM
Lookin gooooooooooood Gary...Keep going STRONG!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (13 posts) at 06:37 PM
I can see a big difference in your shoulders and chest. Great job!
Body for Life Forum Message by jshelton (1674 posts) at 01:01 AM
Just catching up but I have to say you did a great job! Congratulations and good luck on your next challenge!
Jim
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (100 posts) at 04:28 AM
You look fantastic!!! Congratulations!
Body for Life Forum Message by lovetorun (95 posts) at 06:28 AM
Congratulations for finishing the 12 weeks!!
You look awesome!!
Body for Life Forum Message by GetNFit (760 posts) at 07:08 AM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Success!
Body for Life Forum Message by NormRebs (242 posts) at 07:52 AM
You look awesome, great job!
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (5 posts) at 08:07 AM
You look AMAZING !!!! WAY TO GO GIRL !!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by shkelly (162 posts) at 08:39 AM
You look absolutely GORGEOUS!! GREAT JOB!!!
Shelly =)
Body for Life Forum Message by heavyweight (9 posts) at 08:39 AM
Wow, great results! Seeing reults like these are so encouraging.
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (942 posts) at 10:17 AM
Boy you did fantstic-O!! Thanks for posting that! Wooo HOOO!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Goddessa (2109 posts) at 10:21 AM
WOW is right!!! You look amazing!!! Congratulations to you!!! Outstanding job :D
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (601 posts) at 10:29 AM
Man you did a great job! Good for you!
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (13 posts) at 06:32 PM
You are another wonderful inspiration to me! Great job on your transformation!
Body for Life Forum Message by helpdial911 (20 posts) at 07:00 PM
Great job and a true inspiration to all of us newbies.
Body for Life Forum Message by jshelton (1674 posts) at 01:04 AM
Hey Troy! Congratulations on a great C4! Wish my C4 would have gone as well!
You look great! Keep on truckin'!!!
Jim
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (460 posts) at 01:56 AM
Well done Zooman!! You do look buff!
*wolf whistle*
Oops, maybe I shouldn't have done that!
All the best,
"Dr" Pers
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2139 posts) at 04:26 AM
Go Zooman go!!!!! Jan. 10th marks one year for me so we're pretty close. You've done excellent thus far so the next year should be even better.
Congrats!
Tracey
Body for Life Forum Message by Goddessa (2109 posts) at 10:44 AM
My one year is coming up on Jan 17th too. Although its wrong of me to say that because I slacked big time since November and I am just now back at it. So Happy Anniversary Troy!!!!! Might I add...YOU LOOK MAHHHHHVELOUS!!!!! Lisa :D
Body for Life Forum Message by Kerry (1009 posts) at 08:35 PM
Hey Troy,
Congrats! One Year is a hell of an accomplishment. With " oldies like you and Godessa & Tracey & Jim" posting here, makes me feel like a "junior" at only nine months :)
Yours in Health,
Kerry
Body for Life Forum Message by ChrisA (51 posts) at 10:51 PM
Hey there Fit06,
There's good news- we have a local support group for the DC area. It's been a little quiet these days but we're trying to see if we can get things going again for the new year. Have a look at our group website:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BFL_DC
There's also a site on meetup.com but it's inactive and in need of a moderator. Have a look:
http://bfl.meetup.com/78/
Anyway feel free to join the group and introduce yourself to the rest- hopefully we can get things rolling again and meet sometime soon. Good luck with the program!
Chris
Body for Life Forum Message by dmac (5 posts) at 12:33 AM
Just letting you know I'm in too carrying the torch for us aussie girls. I will do the real things 20 a day (but I shall break it into 2 lots of 10). Is that cheating??? : o ) (I don't have the strength to complete twenty yet!!). Also wanted to ask do I need to join a gym guys or can I just do the weight work at home? Will I get the same results? Have weak legs and need to strengthen them. Any suggestions?? Power on all!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (460 posts) at 04:50 AM
I'm going to stick to Jerry's advice.
There are 18 UBWO in this challenge. I'll top up my UBWO with 15 push-ups "Man Style!"
(15 x 18 = 270)
I know it doesn't sound like a lot--but I really don't want to hurt myself and have to drop out!! If anyone would like to help reduce the guilt factor by lowering your number, please do so!
--Pers
So far. . .
Jeremy 5220
Rod the Bod 5060
BIG BULL 5060
Dana D 2500
tcstone 840
chefmikeyd 5250
shkelly 1250
georgiawendy 840
Crone 1250
Thisisit! Aka Bubblebutt 1250
RSS- 5000
Pixy 2500
Bubblebutt's Hubby: 2520
Mojo 3,600
ReenieC 2100
NormRebs 5060
sushu 1680
Nicabod 1260
Tri-girl 4200
tonee 2100
Ashtrash 1680
Young Guns 5060?
Justdoit 840
rbsamy 1680
Persephone 270
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1551 posts) at 08:45 AM
how does doing a few push-ups a day equate to over-training? If you're going to failure then I'd agree but doing say 20 4 times a day is the same as walking a few extra miles a day. I don't see how this could equate to overtraining. I'm sticking with what I said I'd do 80 per day. 6720 for the 12 weeks. If we were so worried about overtraining then if your buddies wanted to play a game of football with you or basketball would you say no? Hell no you'd play how is doing a few push-ups everyday any different. I'm no army brat but I'm pretty sure that when in bootcamp for the army you do quite a few more pushups than this.
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (530 posts) at 09:45 AM
Im wit' you Young Guns. For me, I dont think doing 5-10 pushups, 2 or 3 times a day is going to put me into overtraining. I did this for over 20 years when I played Ball and (knock on wood)never got an injury. (It actually helped my game)
I understand the concern of overtraining and I completely understand if some of you want to reduce or quit the challenge.
But personally-Im stickin to my pledge of: 2500 in 84 days.
Jeremy I hate to see you leave this-I know this was sumthin you seemed REALLY passionate about. Miss you already!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1074 posts) at 10:10 AM
Thanks for the support... Understand I am still passionate but I am most passionate about Julie and who she is and what she has done for us. I just want everyone to understand that I do not advocate overtraining your body and we all know that working the same muscles two days in a row can do that.
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (460 posts) at 10:11 AM
Sorry I really don't think I could honestly have the energy if I'm hitting 9's and 10's to do more than that. I have to stick with 270--but I might be able to do more. Just give me a chance to see what I can do without injuring myself--please don't hold it against me for being cautious. I'm a fat old lady who can't take the risk of injury ;) You young whippersnappers can show me up anytime *smacks gums together* LOL
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1551 posts) at 11:44 AM
I'm taking this a step further even I'm going to make a pledge sheet up and see if I can a bunch of people to pledge 1/10th of a penny or more for every push up I can do successfully and then give the money to Julies foundation. That'll be a minimum of $6.70 per person if I can get anyone to sign it. I'm going to make the pledge sheet tomorrow (my day off). BTW I agree that WORKING the same muscles 2 days in a row can be overtraining, but I don't see doing a few push-ups as working the muscles hard enough to be considered actual work. Maybe I'll change my tune on Saturday (day after chest) but I doubt it.
Body for Life Forum Message by Runningsouthernstyle (20 posts) at 01:20 PM
Young Guns, your right in Boot Camp we did alot more push ups than what we are talking about here, however there the point is to get you to see that you can do them, if you try (part of the mental breakdown process). and to f**k with privates. and you would be suprised at how many Army guys have rotator cuff issues after a few years if they dont learn to rest. I have ammended my challenge to 2,500. I will just do my 60 every other day. On the off days I will do my 100 ab excerises for the ab challenge.
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (485 posts) at 09:18 PM
I commited to 60 per day. Personally I do not think that doing 30 pushups in the am to get the blood flowing and 30 pushups before bed is gonna overtrain anyone.
Please I hope no one takes this the wrong way but that is just my humble opinion.
Rod
Body for Life Forum Message by Suz2lose (3 posts) at 09:55 PM
Hey howdy hey! Count me in! I'm a weeny still so I will start with girlies and work my way up to real ones....oh, let's say in a week or two...How's that sound? you all rock...fun group of people! Come find me when we need to tally!
Jeremy 5220
Rod the Bod 5060
BIG BULL 5060
Dana D 2500
tcstone 840
chefmikeyd 5250
shkelly 1250
georgiawendy 840
Crone 1250
Thisisit! Aka Bubblebutt 1250
RSS- 5000
Pixy 2500
Bubblebutt's Hubby: 2520
Mojo 3,600
ReenieC 2100
NormRebs 5060
sushu 1680
Nicabod 1260
Tri-girl 4200
tonee 2100
Ashtrash 1680
Young Guns 5060?
Justdoit 840
rbsamy 1680
Persephone 270
Suz2lose - 5000 +/-
Body for Life Forum Message by Suz2lose (3 posts) at 10:36 PM
HA! You'll all laugh...after posting my last response and finishing up some work I brought home, I went to the floor and started my "girlie" push-ups...and GASP! 1- girlie pushup (I did it! I did a push up) 2- ggggggggggggirlie puuuuuuuuuuushuuuuuuuuuuuuuup...(8 more to go) 3---grunt, moan, gasp...etc.
HOWEVER, I did do ten.(my goal for the late evening) Did I just commit to 5000? My arms are going to look yummy after this challenge! Now I just need to find a way to keep that promise :)
Suzanne
Body for Life Forum Message by NewMe06 (1 posts) at 10:48 PM
Count me in! I am commited to 20 per UBWO. TOTAL 360! That may not sound like alot, but I'm new here and want to be smart about my work-outs. I have been so inspired by Julie and want to pledge this to her. You guys are great and I really enjoy the support :)
Thanks!
Jeremy 5220
Rod the Bod 5060
BIG BULL 5060
Dana D 2500
tcstone 840
chefmikeyd 5250
shkelly 1250
georgiawendy 840
Crone 1250
Thisisit! Aka Bubblebutt 1250
RSS- 5000
Pixy 2500
Bubblebutt's Hubby: 2520
Mojo 3,600
ReenieC 2100
NormRebs 5060
sushu 1680
Nicabod 1260
Tri-girl 4200
tonee 2100
Ashtrash 1680
Young Guns 5060?
Justdoit 840
rbsamy 1680
Persephone 270
Suz2lose - 5000 +/-
NewMe06 360
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2881 posts) at 02:17 AM
well, it's no big deal, I was excited to try it but I was only doing it b/c it was my gym I belong to, but I can't see me (right now anyway) chasing runs, but maybe one day I will, I never dreamed I'd use a computer, or loose the wt I packed on or stop eating cookie and drinking a night cap or thought I'd love lifting weights, so you never know, never say never.
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (100 posts) at 03:00 PM
I don't think I can agree that Bill Phillips was the first to package and introduce an eating plan based on glycemic index, palm sized portions, frequent meals, etc, etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE BFL, and I think Bill Phillips has done the BEST job of putting together a complete program for eating and exercise, but a lot of the BFL eating plan is incredibly similar to the Zone, first published a couple of years before Body for Life. I'm not suggesting that the Zone was the first either, I imagine Barry Sears took at least some of his plan from information that was already out and about at the time.
I'm just glad to see any "new" diets that reflect frequent eating and considering glycemic index. Anything that will help people out there stop this crazy attitude that all they have to worry about is the fat content, as they merrily digest the carb content of several days eating in one meal!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Daaang Girl (24 posts) at 11:06 AM
ROFL Jamber!!! I actually looked this thread up to find the link so I could download it again.. the program must have gotten sucked into the black hole of cyberstuff. OR, more than likely, Kody zapped it when he was playing solitare the other day :/
I'm glad someone out there will get some enjoyment out of it! I am excited to actually put it to use! lol... I downloaded it a while ago and never used it. I was still running down the road with the donut hanging out of my mouth :)
I hope you, er, your husband enjoys your, er, HIS present..LOL!
Body for Life Forum Message by Daaang Girl (24 posts) at 11:09 AM
UPDATE!!!! I just went to download it again and realized that at the bottom is the link for the COLOR version! Wooooo!!!! (yeah, I really do get excited about stuff like that..)
Body for Life Forum Message by VegasGuy (73 posts) at 11:25 AM
Thanks Guns, I'll give it a shot. I know it's better to mix it up anyway, so that your body doesn't get used to it. But I really am a creature of habit. That's probably one of the reasons that I never get bored with chicken breasts and broccoli every night. It's good, it's healthy, it fills me up, and I never have to worry about "what am I going to have for dinner tonight". LOL
Body for Life Forum Message by ptwob2 (219 posts) at 11:49 AM
I gotta believe that there are other gyms in Spokane. It's a fairly large city. Check something else out.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (840 posts) at 11:55 AM
Maybe there is another (newer) Golds gym in the city you could go to?
Body for Life Forum Message by BFL bride to be (11 posts) at 11:56 AM
I hear you- I'm a creature of habit as well. Can you ask the management why they don't have new machines coming? Plus, I thought if you moved more than 30 miles away from the old gym that they would transfer your membership for you. Wow. Well- just make the best of it and if you can do the challenge with the barest of equipment, then you can accomplish ANYTHING, right? :)
Body for Life Forum Message by brancammom (3 posts) at 10:45 AM
Thank you all for your comments. I was pretty depressed yesterday but today I am doing better. I decided I am going to actively pursue employment while I focus on myself. After the boys go back to school next week and I have a little more "me" time I think I will be better. Today was a good day, I have eaten clean all day (my day is almost over by the time most of your day begins) and I had a great LBWO and also did 45 minutes of cardio on top of it so I am back to feeling positive again! Thanks for the support!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (161 posts) at 06:55 AM
Well, the sore throat kept me up much of the night, but I got up and went to the gym for cardio this morning. I don't think it was exactly HIIT, maybe more like LIIT (and I don't mean Long Island Iced Tea, LMAO), but I did it.
Body for Life Forum Message by PhatMom2006 (aka Bflmom2004) (1058 posts) at 10:31 AM
Butter Baby!!
That is dedication girl...hope you feel better soon.
Your belly bustin buddy!
Christie
Body for Life Forum Message by Goddessa (2109 posts) at 10:31 AM
That totally sucks. You deserve a medal for working out in that condition. I hope you get well soon chica. Lisa xoxox
Body for Life Forum Message by powermom (199 posts) at 11:04 AM
Get well soon girl!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tracy06BFL (28 posts) at 11:10 AM
Get well SOON!
Body for Life Forum Message by Megan'sMom (234 posts) at 11:14 AM
I'm right there with you too - I got some chest junk - throats okay for now. My HIIT wasn't very H today either, but I'm glad that I went and did it even though I didn't feel like it. I think I sweated off an extra couple of pounds though - I've never felt to hot (not in a good way) when working out before.
Hope we all feel better soon!
Laurie
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 04:57 AM
I just need to get my Evanescence CD in MP3 format for working out. I listed to that and I just FEEL heroic ;)
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Runningsouthernstyle (20 posts) at 04:58 AM
the sound of settling by Death Cab for Cutie
You cannot quit on this one
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (161 posts) at 06:54 AM
T -- dang, girl, you made me realize how much awesome music I am missing on my list! It's so hard when you first get an iPod, you put yourself on the spot to think of tunes and then can't think of one single song, lol.
Jerry -- awesome! What a great idea!
Hogken -- Egyptian Lover -- NO WAY!! Hahahahahahahaha! I forgot all about him. :D
Body for Life Forum Message by WorkInProgress (146 posts) at 01:49 PM
Thanks for the encouragment Rie - we're gonna be great!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (440 posts) at 09:01 PM
good deal!
Body for Life Forum Message by NormRebs (242 posts) at 07:56 AM
Cheri, welcome to our team!!
Body for Life Forum Message by 4achange (26 posts) at 04:09 PM
Hey Cheri, I just saw this post...this week has been crazy hectic for me...Could you PM me your email address...I have something to send you. I hope Team 3 is all on track...let's kick some BFL arse.
Body for Life Forum Message by Joe (a.k.a. Onyx) (112 posts) at 01:02 PM
thanks Kerry looking forward to seeing them.
Joe
Body for Life Forum Message by shibox (8 posts) at 12:45 AM
Sweeet! Go Team 5!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Prissy Crissy (67 posts) at 11:26 AM
Good for you! Don't you feel proud of yourself today?
Body for Life Forum Message by amylame (30 posts) at 11:35 AM
I feel amazing! I never thought I would feel so proud of myself over something like 'not having a beer.'
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (13 posts) at 06:29 PM
I finished today going through all the boxes in the shed. The back of my Explorer is loaded up with stuff for goodwill. It feels great!
Body for Life Forum Message by dmac (5 posts) at 12:28 AM
Thanks for the words of wisdom. Felt very discouraged today (day 3) as I went to a kids party and the Mums were eating yummy cakes. I just ate a bit of aussie lamington (a sponge and coconut cake) and now feel bad. After reading your post though I feel better and shall just keep moving on - not beating myself up over it.
Body for Life Forum Message by Udenia (2137 posts) at 01:15 AM
Jim always has words of support for us all, I just hope that I don't let him down. This year is going to be tough for me... keep truckin Jim!
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2881 posts) at 01:29 AM
Jim, the what if's are a great motivation,
The one that says what if I like the BFL eating,
well today I took Bill back to the Dr. from when he fell down the front steps, and I drank a shake before we left. and brought my protien bar in case I needed it later.
So the Dr orders an untra sound and we got 2 hrs to kill, Bill is hungry so we go to Cracker Barrel, My most favorite place in the world.
Bill ored his big breakfast and I ordered coffee.
Yep, just coffee!
When Bill finished eating, I said, Did you enjoy your breakfst baby and he said yeas and No, it was good, but I felt funny eating all this good stuff in front of you because I know how much you would love to dive into this stuff.
I said, Bill, It's not bothering me, really, I have something great waiting for me in my purse for my 12:30 meal and I am really just enjoying my coffee, playing this little game ( you know the little games they put on the table) and being in your company.
After we left, Bill said you know, I think some of you is finially rubbing off on me. I just realized how much grease I just ate. then he held my hand and hugged me right there in the parking lot and said I really admire your will power, you have really blocked all the junk food and greasey food out of your mind, you are doing good and looking great and I am so proud of you!
Then he said, you know what? I looked arould in the whole resterant and I noticed that you did it again, you were the prettiest girl in there.
OK< everybody, time to say
Awhhh!!!! that was so sweet!
GET*HER*DONE LINDA
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (82 posts) at 07:07 AM
Great story Linda.
Jim, sounds like someone has been bushing up on their Anthony Robbins again. :-) Man the power of questions is so effective. Thanks for the post.
Brian
Body for Life Forum Message by stepor (25 posts) at 07:47 AM
Linda, Awhhh!!!! that was so sweet!
;-)
Jim, Thanks for the inspirational posts, you are really helping me learn how to help myself when the going gets tough with your multiple insiteful messages. Thank you, very much.
Have a great day everyone!
Steve
Body for Life Forum Message by heavyweight (9 posts) at 08:43 AM
Positive thinking is key to success. Thanks Jim!
Body for Life Forum Message by Goddessa (2109 posts) at 10:37 AM
I see you have found a way to ditch the stinking thinking Jim. Thanks for sharing it with us :D
Great story Linda. Now I'm gonna say it ...awwwwwwwwwww :D
Body for Life Forum Message by jshelton (1674 posts) at 06:46 PM
Just got back from my workout at the gym and it hit me that I enjoy working out more than I have for a few months! That is pretty good evidence that the illness was dragging me down - not just physically but emotionally...
It's great to feel like a kid in a candy store again! Don't worry...it's only a metaphor! I'm not having any candy until free day!
Jim
Body for Life Forum Message by Kerry (1009 posts) at 08:23 PM
Jim, you have been a little quiet around here lately, very glad to hear you are feeling better :)
2006 is gonna be the best year yet!
Kerry
Body for Life Forum Message by TaraC29 (98 posts) at 09:21 PM
Just wanted to say that you look GREAT and that you are the very first person I've ever voted for for the profile of the month! :) You have done an amazing job and we're glad to have you around!
Body for Life Forum Message by dmac (5 posts) at 12:18 AM
Hi There everyone - I'm writing from Australia and wanted to know has anyone has toxic headaches and lethargy with the BFL program? I'm on day 3! Also wondering if there are any other aussies out there and if they can recommend a good egg substitute (Bill mentions this alot in his Eating for Life book). I'm going through eggs like there is no tomorrow. Is this ok?? : o ) Keep believing and achieving everyone.
Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (215 posts) at 12:40 AM
I'm not aussie, but here we have Egg Beaters. they are great. But more expensive, hope this helps some.
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (161 posts) at 06:58 AM
When I first started BFL last year, I did get headaches. My body thought I was starving it because the meals were so small, and until it figured out it would get more in just a couple of hours, it made me feel like I was going to DIE. LOL It got better in no more than a week. Stick with it, you'll be feeling great soon!
And I use egg whites, even though I go through eggs really fast, they're still cheaper than egg substitutes.
Body for Life Forum Message by NormRebs (242 posts) at 08:40 AM
Plus you have to understand if you are eating healthy for the first time your body is getting rid of toxins that you have accumulated through the years. This also may be the reason for your headaches. Give it some time, once you have cleaned your system you will see the headaches go away! You also will see your energy levels skyrocket! Check the egg isle in your supermarket for egg substitutes, there are many different brands.
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (340 posts) at 09:47 AM
I am very prone to migraines, but I always get one the first few days I start eating right... I kind of think it's my body adjusting to using the "fuel" in a different way (i.e. smaller portions more often vs the big three a day)
Body for Life Forum Message by Goddessa (2109 posts) at 10:24 AM
I don't know if you used to drink alot of coffee or diet soda but the decrease in caffeine could also be causing the headaches. I had only 1 cup of coffee yesterday (I usually have 3-4) and I had a rip roaring headache by 7:30 pm.
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2881 posts) at 01:15 AM
I am entering the ms Fit meltdown challenge and posted 2 of my pics I sent in, and one very interesting picture, you have to see it to believe it, It's funny!
I'll GET*HER*DONE!!
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (32 posts) at 04:59 AM
Love it!! :D
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1299 posts) at 07:07 AM
Great pictures linda!!! The last one made my day!!!!!LOL!!!! I wish you all the best with the ms Fit challenge!!!
Hugs,
Sylvia aka Cookie1135
Body for Life Forum Message by Buffy-the-FatLayer-Slayer (45 posts) at 08:04 AM
Awesome set of pictures. You've done so well with BFL but, um, that last picture, well, I just don't know about that!
Keep it up girl.
Luv ya,
Cathy
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2139 posts) at 08:39 AM
Getting more and more impressive Linda! Keep up the excellent work. As far as that last picture, I'd watch the spinach consumption - don't want to end up looking like Popeye or something!
Body for Life Forum Message by heavyweight (9 posts) at 08:42 AM
The transformation is incrediable. Great job!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (340 posts) at 09:45 AM
VERY funny! (quick aside -- I loved that bikini! who makes it?)
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2881 posts) at 09:46 AM
Flower, the other night I woke up, I was dreaming or maybe it was a nightmare, but I WAS popyee!!
I had his arms, no othe