Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1310 posts) at 09:13 AM
It gets loose before it tightens up again. You will go through several stages of this in your fat loss.
As my workout partner who is a trainer says "you will look worse before you look better". So I get excited when I look a little flabby and mushy lol.
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (913 posts) at 10:30 PM
Well, I seem to have caught the "below the neck" bug pretty bad.
Off for two days now and can't seem to catch my breath? Weird. Considering all I do is run to the bathroom and not eat. Or drink. Nothing says IN!
Ew. I don't like being sick! (boo-hooo)
T
Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (349 posts) at 10:48 PM
Ive been fighting a cold/sinus infection or somethign of the sorts for 3 weeks. I cant afford to take the time off, Im afraid I'll resort to the bad eating habits again. However, this week it moved into my chest, along with my sinuses, so I am taking off just cardio and doing pilates instead. I cant hardly breathe as it is. I am still doing the regular workouts and eating good.
Hope this helps, and hope you get to feeling better!
xoxo
Karen
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 08:58 AM
Many of you may have heard about the results of the new study that concludes that low fat diets don't protect women against some diseases.
Here's the article in today's Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701681.html
"Low-fat diets do not protect women against heart attacks, strokes, breast cancer or colon cancer, a major study has found, contradicting what had once been promoted as one of the cornerstones of a healthy lifestyle."
What they don't say is, well, a lot. How about diabetes or obesity? And the study was done on post-menopausal women. And they don't quite make the differentiation between the kinds of fat they're talking about. Or whether the women studied also incorporate exercise and other healthy habits into their lives.
I've got a lot of problems with how this study is being reported. Take this, for example, buried deep in the article: "Women on the low-fat diet did have 9 percent fewer breast cancers, but researchers could not be sure that difference was not the result of chance. There were other encouraging hints, however, including signs that women who were consuming the most fat when the study began, or those prone to certain types of tumors, may benefit, especially if they were followed longer."
I also wonder how many people are going to read the headline and the first paragraph and use it to justify their fat-consuming ways.
So, what do you make of all this?
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1310 posts) at 09:02 AM
The thing about low-fat is it does not exclude sugar. The low-fat craze sometime back was believed to be so great but all those low-fat products had tons of sugar and processed junk which contribute to those diseases. Hmmm maybe I should go read the rest of the article lol... brb
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 09:04 AM
Exactly! My tablespoon of flax seed oil at night is not the same as a Krispy Kreme donut. And this article doesn't really describe the difference.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jmskelton (404 posts) at 09:08 AM
Correct! In addition to TNT's mention of sugar, the essential fats are not distinguished as such, and people drawn to the low-fat diet syndrome do not realize or understand or choose to ignore that they still need fats in their diets.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1310 posts) at 09:09 AM
OK yes they are talking about eliminating or lowering fat. They don't discuss eliminating sugars/ processed food/ etc... just lowering the fat. Which this is no break through many people have known this. Though if you are not in the know of stuff I could see how someone could take this as well Fat is GREAT for me. Of course we can all take something we read and turn it into the reason "WHY" we can do something. Or feel justified in our actions. This wold be one of those articles that left out a lot of the big picture...and focused on 1 thing low-fat. If I was just your average Jane reading this I would not see the big picture. I would think oh wow low-fat is bad. Etc... so yes it is a bit sloppy in it's delivery. But most journalism today is. Esp. on diet and exercise.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1150 posts) at 09:13 AM
Fat is good for you:)
Body for Life Forum Message by Framed (159 posts) at 09:59 AM
I was alarmed and worried when I read the headline too. Afraid the obese population would say, "oh well, they keep changing the rules, I don't know what to do." and then give up. Lifestyle is killing people and it includes processed foods, empty calories, (white bread etc.) sugars of every kind and lumps all fats in the same category. We know that it is about quantity of QUALITY foods and when they are eaten. It's time for them to do studies on powerfoods. Quality and the amount. the low/no fat craze caused Americans to gain weight. Why? Because they assumed if it was FAT Free...it was a big FREEBIE...EAT IT TILL YOU DROP. Even our very nutrient rich foods are not Free for alls. We are combining the right foods in the right quantities.
the medical experts know this. Why do they do studies trying to eliminate one food?
Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (349 posts) at 02:42 PM
OH GOOD GOD this is all over Fox News.
Why dont we provide some more information to confuse the hell out of the general public even more!!! More excuses to be okay with obesity is my opinion...ugh.
Body for Life Forum Message by Shoe (41 posts) at 03:22 PM
I guess I've been fortunate; I've seen really good coverage of this. The NY Times article was exceptionally clear about the fact that the study didn't distinguish between types of fats, as this study began well before the current research about trans-fats and sat fats vs. good fats. Also, one of the doctors mentioned that Americans need to reevaluate their focus on food--that they need to realize that it's not what we eat but how much we eat that's the problem.
I like studies like this. First, it illuminates the fact that "diets" are pointless and not healthy. Anything that draws a big red X over an entire food group isn't considering the big picture of health. Second, it's good information. Eating processed low-fat whatever *isn't* healthy and we need to stop letting the food industry pretend it is.
Anything that moves the idea of good nutrition towards recognizing more whole foods and less chemically-created ones is awesome in my book.
Body for Life Forum Message by TNT's-MOM (375 posts) at 03:54 PM
GMA this morning did a good job reporting on this they did point out that you must have good fats and still leave out the bad fats to have a healthy lifestyle along with exercise and other healthy foods.
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:17 PM
Thanks for posting two sources that did good reporting. I'll need to check out the NYT piece.
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 08:47 PM
hmmm this hasn't hit the new up here..but I'd like to go read what sort of new "Excuses" are being spread around!...
Thanks for posting about it!
Body for Life Forum Message by Shauna (24 posts) at 01:17 PM
OK, so I'm wondering how healthy Mongolian BBQ is? I went there last night and had a bowl of veggies, shaved meat and chicken, went really light on sauce and oil and of course skipped the soup, fried rice and egg rolls. Washed it all down with 3 glasses of water. I would really like to put it on my list of approved meals, but thought I'd check in with my fellow trackers...any thoughts?
Body for Life Forum Message by Jmskelton (404 posts) at 01:34 PM
Unless you know the ingredients they are cooking the veggies, meat and chicken with or know all of the ingredients in the sauce, I would personally save it for free day. Just my opinion....I am sure fellow trackers can add or modify what I am suggesting or may have different opinions.
Body for Life Forum Message by shkelly (246 posts) at 02:06 PM
Here is a link to their nutritional info........I hope it helps in deciding! http://www.bdsmongolianbarbeque.com/Nutrition.pdf
Shelly =)
Body for Life Forum Message by Shauna (24 posts) at 03:09 PM
Thank you both for your input...I love the nutritional info, wow what a wake up call on the sauces. I think I will save it for free days from now on!
Body for Life Forum Message by SupaFreak (1075 posts) at 03:17 PM
They have their nutritional info in the restuarants too. there are several sauces that are very low sodium and low carb.
I think the place is great!
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:28 PM
I get the Women's vitamins from Vitamin Shoppe. Seems like a good deal.
Body for Life Forum Message by Minka (71 posts) at 09:18 AM
my fave is:
2 scoops vanilla protein pwder
2 cups ice
1/3 cup choc LITE soy milk
1 tbls flaxseed
1 tbls natural crunchy peanutbutter
sometimes i add a splash of the mornings coffee
blend until frothy
YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:20 PM
WOW! Sounds yummy!!
Body for Life Forum Message by LisaMichele (73 posts) at 09:08 AM
I was reading back over several topics and it seems as though people are mostly drinking Myoplex shakes. Why? Why not the Body for Life shakes? Do the Myoplex ones taste better? What's your take? What are the benifets to the different shakes on the market. I am looking for fat loss mostly, but I still want to build muscle. So do I look for a shake that has less calories or the one the has the most protien?
Thanks!
LisaMichele
Body for Life Forum Message by Jmskelton (404 posts) at 09:13 AM
Then you need to drink Myoplex Lite vs. regular Myoplex if you are achieving optimal fat loss. Body for Life shakes have a higher sugar content.
Body for Life Forum Message by nola (122 posts) at 09:16 AM
Also, the BFL shakes have a lot less protein...just 15 grams versus 24 or 25 for Myoplex Lite.
I can't stand Myoplex myself (they taste a lot different than the BFL shakes, which I like), so I whip up my own shakes using protein powder.
Body for Life Forum Message by Minka (71 posts) at 09:16 AM
im using MyoPro (now called EAS 100% Whey)
Body for Life Forum Message by Janie (42 posts) at 09:47 AM
Yeah, basically the BFL shakes/bars are more of a mass-market less expensive alternative. The Myoplex is a superior product with higher quality proteins, carbs, etc. and like nola said, more protein so better balanced. So with as serious as I am about building my body I opted for the Myoplex. But, I do occasionally get teh BFL stuff because they are cheap and I kind of think of the bars as my "candy". :o) You can check out the content of Myoplex vs. BFL at bodybuilding.com
Body for Life Forum Message by tgantt (34 posts) at 10:28 AM
Minka,
I have seen MyoPro. What is the difference? I am thinking of getting it.
Thanks
Tiff
Body for Life Forum Message by p_ano_man (15 posts) at 01:18 PM
Myopro is just protein powder, whereas Myoplex is a meal replacement - protein, carbs, vitamins, minerals, fat, etc.
Body for Life Forum Message by motiv8me (230 posts) at 04:00 PM
My Myoplex powder is waaaaaaaaaaaay past it's expiry date, mostly because I didn't know it had one! But yesterday, after drinking a shake, I started to feel, um, yucky, so I wondered if it was the shake. When I looked for an expiry date, I saw 2002!!! Eeks!
So my questoin is, why is there an expiry date? What is expiring? Is the powder no longer good or effective, or both? Is that why I felt yucky, or was it just coincidence???
Again, this is not the ready-made shake, just the powder.
Body for Life Forum Message by motiv8me (230 posts) at 04:57 PM
I guess everyone is too busy blasting eachother on other threads to reply to my genuine quest for knowledge and support on Tracker.
BUMP - - let me try this again!
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:59 PM
Yuck! Maybe it's how the chemicals and other ingredients might break down and interact?
Anyway, I'd definitely toss the powder and buy new stuff.
Body for Life Forum Message by TNT's-MOM (375 posts) at 05:13 PM
I don't really know but if it has an expiration date of 2002 definatly toss it...call EAS for the particulars on how they come up with their exp dates. Just a good idea to not eat anything that is out of date by 4 years...eeek. after reading the threads about colon cleansing if you drink it it may qualify and not in a good way! LOL so toss it and buy new.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1310 posts) at 05:38 PM
Because it is engineered food. AS with any type of food basically it's nutritional value is obsolete after it's shelf life. And even more so with engineered food such as MRB and shakes.
Yes, def. buy some new stuff. I just tossed some from a few years ago as well.
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (778 posts) at 11:15 PM
bump. and hey Muscle Head...my son's b-day is April 1st, so we don't do the pranks or jokes! I hear ya!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (562 posts) at 12:41 PM
You guys have my compettative juices going again.
This past summer we had the Cardio freaks competition going to see who could get to 3 miles and how far over you could go in 20 mins.
I know Chris and Braxton made it but I always just fell short so after reading all your accomplishments, you guys got me all fired up again.
I just finished my 20 mins on the treadmill going 2.91 miles. I went no slower than 7.6 and no faster than 11.3
I intervaled up and down as I felt stronger or needed rest.
P.S. for little Reagie, DAMN BOY your MoM is fast!!!!!!!!!!!
Rod
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1310 posts) at 09:19 AM
Congrats. Glad you got some direction and an agent who will have your best interest in my mind. That really is great news. Congrats!
Body for Life Forum Message by Forest Tech (179 posts) at 09:50 AM
Congrats!! Good luck with your endevours!
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1310 posts) at 09:17 AM
Stay strong girl! I know it's difficult times for you guys right now. Keeping you guys in my thoughts.
-T
Body for Life Forum Message by Minka (71 posts) at 09:20 AM
i've read hempseed is actually a better source then flaxseed. worth trying out..but i know its quite a bit more expensive
Body for Life Forum Message by Megan'sMom (289 posts) at 04:34 PM
I had a lot of problem with this with my first challenge a few years ago and I took Udo's Choice - it's disgusting, but worked really well.
Laurie
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 07:35 AM
Anyone had this performed as an alternative to a tubal ligation? I know this might not be covered under my insurance, so I'm also looking for the approximate cost involved? Thanks.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (725 posts) at 07:46 AM
hey georgia-girl------why are you looking for an alternative to a tubal?
just wondering, I had a tubal in 1997 and had zero issues during or after the procedure...........nor since.
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (48 posts) at 08:46 AM
I know someone that had it done, but she had so much scar tissue that it wasn't able to be completed. Sorry, I don't know how much it cost, but I do believe her insurance plan covered it as a method of sterilization.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jmskelton (404 posts) at 08:57 AM
My insurance plan just covered my tubal last October after the birth of my son. You may want to check with them. I did inquire about the Essure procedure, but there were no gains or drawbacks in particular over the tubal according to my physician.
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 09:28 AM
I was looking into alternatives to a tubal because:
1. This seems less invasive. I'm not a big fan of laparoscopy, including the cutting/cauterization involved in a tubal.
2. I work for doctors. That's enough to SCARE me!
Thanks to everyone for your comments. I will continue to research both methods. Maybe I should have renamed this thread, how to motivate your husband to get fixed instead? lol
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (725 posts) at 09:45 AM
yeah-----right-------like that would happen (LOL)
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 10:13 AM
I had a tubal through my bellybutton about a half hour after my last baby...Havne't had any problems and its been 3 years. I am SOOOOOOO glad i did it. What is the Essure thing? Is it where they vaporize the uterine linig so you have no more flow??
Tell me tellme
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 10:15 AM
No vaporization, but it's very interesting. Get the details at essure.com
Body for Life Forum Message by stepmorjo (92 posts) at 10:28 AM
I had a tubal after my second c-section (I figured they cut me open anyways, might as well do it then). There are days I regret having it done because it is so final. I would try to get your husband to fixed because at least his can be reversed.
Stephanie
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 10:53 AM
That looks very interesting. I gues I'm not in the market because I'm already fixed, and I'm not looking back! LOL
The prep nursse were a little concerned when i was getting ready to have it done, they saw that I was only 28 and were asking"are you sure? you seem so young to be doing this" I just said "guys, I just delivered my 5th baby, and my oldest is 7. I'm REALLY sure" They all laughed and it was no questions asked. Actually they said "holy crap, get that dr. in here stat!"
Hwn you know your done, you know.
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 11:14 AM
Too funny Jamber! We're definitely done. I had twins, and if I got pregnant again, my specialist told me it could easily be triplets!! I can't imagine five kids.
My husband once said wouldn't it be fun to have a set of boy twins? I said what if I have another set of twin girls or even triplet girls? That shut him up really quick :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by Jmskelton (404 posts) at 11:39 AM
Jamber - I can relate, had them do the same thing for me; I just delivered my fourth in October and turned 40 in Nov. I am done! My last one born was my only child that was not a NICU baby and I figured I better not test fate. Although I know its all in the Lord's hands, I have no regrets.
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 11:41 AM
He was thinking about additional bathrooms, boyfriends, proms and weddings!!
Let me tell ya, the first six months of their life was mostly a total blur. It's a good thing we took a lot of pics.
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 11:42 AM
Amkazen...huh? Where did your post go?
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (48 posts) at 10:18 PM
Sheesh, just go to your vet & get spayed.. You get to go home the same day, and maybe they'll let you sleep on the couch!
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1150 posts) at 07:51 AM
It appears that information on diet soday is inconclusive in terms of the health problems or benefits. does anyone have research based information on the negatives or positives of diet soda
Body for Life Forum Message by Tracy06BFL (55 posts) at 08:06 AM
From Jerry Braam's website..
Soda on days besides a free day? I'm sure you already know that answer!
As for DIET soda. That is a common question. The use of DIET on the label often confuses people. Just because it has lower calories doesn't mean that it is okay to ingest.
Both Soda & Diet Soda have many factors that will severley stunt your best BFL results. Minus the obvious with reg soda...Things to consider with diet are sodium, caffeine, carbonation, etc...
~Sodium of course you are aware that sm. amounts of sodium dramatically increase water retention may you look and fell bloated=crappy.
~Caffeine has been researched for years! I read that it was fine in moderation. But also remember that it does have diuretic effects& may cause dehydration, so always drink a glass of water for every diet soda or cup-o-coffee. The positive that it may help increase energy for a training session.
~ Carbonated Now I have read that carbonated soft drinks are high in phosphorus. Phosphorus appears to compete with many nutrients, vitiamins and minerals. But mostly calcium for bone, thereby limiting its absorption; in other words, bone loss may be greater than bone maintenance and/or formation, so that net bone density/mass would be less than optimal. This is particularly negative for women's health because of osteoporosis ingredients.
Best puposes for soda...
~To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coke into the toilet. Let it sit for one hour, then flush clean.
~To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a crumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coke.
~To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coke over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
~To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in Coke to the rusted bolt for several minutes.
There is no better replacement for water than water. You need water to sustain your body's many vital chemical reactions and maintain correct body temperature. Water also rehydrates you because water is lost as perspiration (and expired air), and this can lead to dehydration if fluids are not replaced. Another plus -- drinking water before and during physical activity can enhance your athletic performance.
If you have to ingest diet soda. Try to keep it to a minimum. Find healthy alternatives.
I especially enjoy adding "DIET" Crystal Light (Peach Tea) to my water arsenal.
What are your personal water tips!
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (48 posts) at 08:45 AM
Nothing against Jerry, by any means.. But that's more of an opinion..
And everyone knows that the citric acid in soda will remove rust :)
Personally, I drank tons of Diet Pepsi, and I can GUARANTEE that starting Monday, in c2, I will continue, and I will get the same dramatic results that I got last time.
You should still drink your gallon-ish of water a day, though :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Sammy (57 posts) at 08:58 AM
dagg im scared now! haha
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1150 posts) at 09:12 AM
I know those ingredients but what about the others... and what about artificial sweeteners?? Yes results are number one but can it hinder results if you drank three a day. That is a question I am not sure about
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 10:21 AM
Honestly, I don't think its that bad, but for me, personally, I don't drink it during the week because it affects my breathing. I think its because of the carbonation. Ingesting the carbon dioxide or whatever it is that makes the fizz. If I drink my beloved Diet Coke and then the next day try to do a HIIT, I feel like my breathing capacity is diminished. Saying you shouldn't becuase of the caffeine is just silly, Hello, what do you think is in the "fatburners"!! LOL I also think the aspartame is bad, and it does have a cumulative effect, but a little in moderation is not going to kill you. Pounding down a 64 ouncer every day, thats a different story.
I've found now that I cut it out during the week (pretty much) I can't drink more than 1 glass of DC(like at a restaurnat)where I used to put down a 2 liter in a day and a half regularly.
Body for Life Forum Message by tgantt (34 posts) at 10:32 AM
How embarassing is this? I have been very interested in the DrNatura colon cleanse, and plan on ordering at pay day. What can I do in the mean time? I don't understand why when I'm eating all of these green veggies, whole wheat products, and drinking water that I can get like this. It was 10 days before, took laxatives, solved it, now it's been 5 days. I feel sick!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (725 posts) at 10:42 AM
the added quantities doesn't help with that either....we all have this issue.
You can add milled flaxseed to your protein shakes (that helps me), I have started using herbal remedies as well. Make certain you get some (very) green leafy veggies in your diet too.
but, don't be embarassed.,.....like I said, it happens to ALL of us.l
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (725 posts) at 10:42 AM
that was supposed to read;
the added quantities of "protein"
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 09:13 PM
Yep this is very common when begining the program ..protein really bungs some people up ... 5-mor 10 days is WAY to long hon! we only let our patients here at the hospital go for 3-4 days max without a BM .
Try some fibre based laxtive things..Metamucil or what not .. & then move on to some of the senna products either a tea or a pill..both can be found at most grocery or health food stores ...best of luck hon!
Body for Life Forum Message by anavywife (188 posts) at 09:20 PM
I use the citrucel fiber shake every AM for my IBS and it really helps to make things more regular, I know how you feel not going for a while, it really makes you feel heavy. With the citrucel I dont feel that way until after free day!
Crystal
Body for Life Forum Message by sober-stud (58 posts) at 02:10 PM
These challenges are never easy for me
because I travel constantly. I'm pretty good
at eating clean and working out when I'm home
but I go somewhere every week.
Next week I am in Spain for the entire week.
I hope like hell that my hotel has a decent
work-out room and that there are some healthy
eating options.
I'm going to try and stuff my bags with shakes/bars
but I want to also be able to experience the local
flavor....
I resolve that I am going to come back from Spain
lighter than when I left. I will cut off a limb
if necessary to make this happen.
Body for Life Forum Message by Tracy06BFL (55 posts) at 03:08 PM
WOW..have a GREAT week in Spain.
You WILL come back lighter if that is your goal.
Just DO IT!
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:19 PM
Sounds like a great trip. Enjoy your time there! If you keep your mind set on your goals, you WILL find a way to make it happen. Good luck!
Body for Life Forum Message by sober-stud (58 posts) at 04:26 PM
dang tracy and hot body i will use your words and pics as my motivation
i will try to stay out of trouble
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 09:07 PM
Best of luck & enjoy your trip!!! lots of fresh veggies there I hear!tyr to incorporate them in your eating too!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by sober-stud (58 posts) at 02:10 PM
These challenges are never easy for me
because I travel constantly. I'm pretty good
at eating clean and working out when I'm home
but I go somewhere every week.
Next week I am in Spain for the entire week.
I hope like hell that my hotel has a decent
work-out room and that there are some healthy
eating options.
I'm going to try and stuff my bags with shakes/bars
but I want to also be able to experience the local
flavor....
I resolve that I am going to come back from Spain
lighter than when I left. I will cut off a limb
if necessary to make this happen.
Body for Life Forum Message by Megan'sMom (289 posts) at 09:22 PM
I'm watching Biggest Loser and I often wonder which trainer I would choose. I often think I'd like Bob, because he's more touchy/feely and Jillian is more hard . . . then I think that just means I need to take Jillian because she'd get me out of my comfort zone.
Who would you pick?
Any idea if one has more success than the other? I can't remember after the fact who had which trainer.
Laurie
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (913 posts) at 10:42 PM
Jillian because she would yell in my face, but I might have to clock her one just so she wouldn't yell in my face.
Bob because he would pick something that would make me cry and get me motivated, but also because he wouldn't get in my face and yell at me!
I need an in between ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by mshaun (44 posts) at 10:46 PM
Jillian, Grrrrrrrr ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:39 PM
Interesting!
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:27 PM
Interesting! Thanks for letting us know.
Body for Life Forum Message by MelJ113074 (29 posts) at 05:33 AM
Well I'm happy to announce that I have picked up my pace and intensity. Now I do 3.5 (for some reason I can't do 4.0 anymore),4.5,5.0,5.5 and 6.0 for my 10. So close to 2 miles in 20min. That has just become one of my new goals. Oh yeah my incline is set at 1.0 also. It's so strange to hear me say this, but I enjoy being on the treadmill. Soon I'm hoping to do 4.5,5.0,5.5,6.0 and 6.5 for my 10. I think I'll need another week for that though.
The only thing that drives me crazy is the cal burned part. I notice since I'm losing weight I'm not burning as many calories. I mean it's not much, but it's still getting less and less. I guess that's another good reason to up that MPH and get those cal burned off.
So how are other's progressing?
Melissa
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (359 posts) at 07:49 AM
I do 2 miles in about 19:20 and here is my workout: 2-5.0, 5.5, 6.0, 6.5, 7.0, four times and then minute 18 is at 7.5.
I have started making adjustments to get my mileage up there, like for the minutes at 7.0, sometimes I will do 30 seconds at 7.0 and 30 seconds at 7.5. For my "10" I will run 7.5 for 30 seconds, 8.0 for 30 seconds and then maybe 8.5 for 30 seconds....until I can take no more.
You really will be surprised at how fast you can go if you push yourself. Just be careful and don't overdo it.
Body for Life Forum Message by MelJ113074 (29 posts) at 08:14 AM
The thought of running at that speed makes me laugh. All I can see is me tripping and going flying off the back of the treadmill and smashing into the wall. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Crispywafers (24 posts) at 10:13 AM
I love these type of threads... lets me think about what I want to eventually shoot for when I'm more fit.
Currently I do 4.2, 4.5, 5.6, 5.8, 7.0 (x4) and then for my 10 I go 7.5-8.0.
I hit 1.98-2 miles doing this. I hope by the end of the 12 weeks I will be able to get to 2.5-3 miles.
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:22 PM
OMG - some of you are speed demons!
Body for Life Forum Message by Crispywafers (24 posts) at 10:20 AM
I use free weights only because I travel frequently for work and hotels often only have free weights and maybe a bike as a gym. So I prefer to use a routine that "travels well".
I'll try teh one legged squats DreamCatcher. Thanks!
Body for Life Forum Message by powermom (202 posts) at 09:29 AM
On Saturdays a few of us like to get together and do a boot camp/circuit type workout to change things up. I'm just looking for some new ideas. If anyone has any ideas to share that would be awesome. We're always looking for new combinations. Sometimes we use weights, sometimes we don't. Sometimes we focus on core, other days we do upper and lower body combined. Like I said, we just like to change things up on Saturdays - and sweat like mad! Typically we do each exercise for 1 minute and have a 30 second rest and then continue. Depending on how many exercises we have we sometimes do the circuit 2 or 3 times.
Here is an example of one that we did a few weeks ago.
1.Jump rope (side straddle)
2. Bench Dip
3. Squat Thrust
4. Ball transfer crunch
5. kick box
6. plank
7. walking lunge with overhead press
8. Side lying scissors
9. squat with lateral raise
10. alt. knee to elbow (bicycle exercise for abs)
11 jump rope
12. back extension
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:10 PM
More Julie!! ..bump
Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (349 posts) at 11:29 PM
WOW that really messed with me for a minute...didnt know what was going on until i seen the date....
We needed this!!! thx lala!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Miz G (87 posts) at 11:49 PM
extactly! crazy blonde....I did a double take on that one...shook me up. thank goodness these messages have dates on them. tho' on the other hand it is kinda nice to think that Julie is watching over us and sending us her words of wisdom. Her words and wisdom will never be out of style. She was a Wonder(ful) Woman. See ya later!
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:08 PM
putting Julie's words back up to the top..More things to review...just in case people have lost perspective..
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:06 PM
Bump...things to think about!
Body for Life Forum Message by annie (1 posts) at 09:02 AM
I'm in. (This is my first post on Tracker and I can't believe it was to do this!)
BFL works- and Oprah can help the world know what we call know.
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (562 posts) at 10:02 PM
Bump for the Big Bull
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 10:05 PM
I never thought of it that way, but you are absolutely right. I finished 84 days, and then, even when I wasn't actively following BFL, I was thinking about BFL all the time. I'm hooked, baby!
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 10:15 PM
I LOVE THAT!!! I am so proud of the challenge I did and I am truly hooked for LIFE! Seriously, only death or dismemberment could keep me away at this point! 4-EVA!!
Body for Life Forum Message by justdoit (299 posts) at 10:48 PM
I agree with all of you - It's like we have been re-wired and the only way we work correctly is when we are following BFL. And when we are off a little we know exactly what we have to do. Thanks for the post, I too cannot live without BFL in some way in my life!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Gloom Raider (6 posts) at 08:00 AM
UPDATE !!!
There will be a major BfL Event taking place in Ireland (near Dublin) on Sat 4th March.
Our very special guests include:
Abb Ansley
(one of the "original 10" - as seen in the movie "Body of Work")
Diane Robertson
(BfL Special Recognition Winner in 2000)
Dr Debbie Sawatzky
(2004 UK BfL Champion)
Proceeds from the night will go towards the children's charity "Barretstown"
(see www.barretstown.org)
feel free to mail me directly at gloomraider@hotmail.com if you want more details.
SPREAD THE WORD !!
Paul Mc
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 04:27 PM
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Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:59 PM
Bump!
Body for Life Forum Message by ibmissy (36 posts) at 08:40 AM
Don't ever mix a shake with your fiber in the morning and let it sit more than a minute or two. Yuck, gross..It's frothy and thick in a gross consistency kind of way.
Body for Life Forum Message by Sammy (57 posts) at 08:52 AM
Wow BFL has changed since the last time i did it!! hahaha
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 09:09 AM
La la la la la!!! I'm singing this morning!! Bet you can guess why!
Body for Life Forum Message by incognito (3 posts) at 10:18 AM
Ok, increased steeping to 10 minutes last night and 1.5 scoops of fiber this morning. Smooth movement before I left for work, nothing to write home about. Didn't feel completely empty. Noticed on the way to work, there was something "a brewing" though. Not in a panic mode stuck in traffic, but will probably be taking the elevator 13 floors down to the bathroom within the next hour or so. Happy to see some kind of action.
Body for Life Forum Message by Ajordan (17 posts) at 03:07 PM
I started the pack this morning. Took some Paranil pills and the 1/2 fiber scoop. Nothing yet....
Although, I'm feeling a little crampy.
Congrats to the rest of you who are having results. I can't wait..
(I feel like a kid in at christmas...)
Body for Life Forum Message by ButtConspiracy (29 posts) at 03:23 PM
ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!Theres no such thing as a colon cleanses!! You know those pills you pay 900 bucks to buy!! The ones you have to sell your first borne to get a hold off?!?!?! Well, I hate to bust you colon but they don’t do jack!!! And you might say “ Well I craped out an E.T. looking thing just the other day so they must work!” Well I worked under cover at a colon factory..And what really happens is….They put a condensed ET in a pill and so when you eat it and grow a tail the next day and take a look at your dooky and see the little gremlin…You’ll tell all of your friends and they will all buy poop pills!!
What I suggest is you buy a few prunes and kick back and let nature do its work! Don’t buy colon pills or you will go bald!
Body for Life Forum Message by giselle (21 posts) at 03:31 PM
I'm assuming you're bald?!?!
Body for Life Forum Message by ButtConspiracy (29 posts) at 03:38 PM
giselle said:
I'm assuming you're bald?!?!
Ask your mom
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:00 PM
ahhh...the elusive flamer.Dude, take your little crusty fingers off the keys and put them back in your pants where they normally are- continue to talk tough on the computer because you know in real life you'd get your pussy ass knocked out.Now...go ahead and answer something you cut and pasted off a flame site so you can confirm for all of us that you are indead, the ghey-est of ghey.
Body for Life Forum Message by Kajole (70 posts) at 05:26 PM
So..um he worked at a colon factory under cover...
HEH HEH I wonder what they do all day at a colon factory?? Do they make colons..or the stuff inside colons??
;)
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:50 PM
look at the name
butt conspiracy
that pretty much says it all.
clownboat.
Body for Life Forum Message by Edward (40 posts) at 06:44 PM
more like Turd Burglar
Body for Life Forum Message by kitwhit (116 posts) at 06:53 PM
The colon threads are the perfect threads for him. He's a parasite and a shit.
Body for Life Forum Message by ButtConspiracy (29 posts) at 10:08 PM
Rie said:
ahhh...the elusive flamer.Dude, take your little crusty fingers off the keys and put them back in your pants where they normally are- continue to talk tough on the computer because you know in real life you'd get your pussy ass knocked out.Now...go ahead and answer something you cut and pasted off a flame site so you can confirm for all of us that you are indead, the ghey-est of ghey.
Why dont you go play In some traffic..You woman of the night
Body for Life Forum Message by ButtConspiracy (29 posts) at 10:14 PM
Edward said:
more like Turd Burglar
Your more like crotch goblin
Body for Life Forum Message by ButtConspiracy (29 posts) at 10:33 PM
kitwhit said:
The colon threads are the perfect threads for him. He's a parasite and a shit.
Hey Kitwhit...I looked at your profile, and If my dog had a face like you I'd shave his butt and walk him backwards.
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 10:59 PM
damn- I love this feature- I can totally ignore him...much like every woman who's ever met him.
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:22 PM
Great stuff ..we like to hear good news!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:48 PM
Bump! Awesome job!
Body for Life Forum Message by bella2be (505 posts) at 10:04 PM
Looking great Pan!!! Your chest and shoulders look so strong, and your legs...wow. Congrats, you are doing great!
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:41 PM
YAY Pan!!! keep it up !!! only 2weeks left! AWESOME!
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:22 AM
You are inspirational! I can see a big difference in your waist and hips. Keep up the fantastic work!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:43 PM
Bump!
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscle Head (75 posts) at 08:01 AM
In addition to what Tracey has listed, here are some general guidelines that seem to work for alot of people ...
Water - at least a gallon per day.
Portions - Cut back 15% from what they were when you were bulking up.
Carbs - Avoid processed altogether. Also, try cycles of 3 days on , 3 days off where you cut out starchy carbs after 3pm ... you will need to double up on the veggies for those meals.
Free Day ... keep it to one small meal only.
Cardio - At least 3 times per week.
Overall, pay attention to your body composition from week-to-week .... if you are losing that hard-earned muscle, then you may need to either increase your portions and/or cut back on the cardio.
Good luck and I hope this helps.
JS
Body for Life Forum Message by NormRebs (369 posts) at 08:08 AM
JS and Flower thanks for your input! I really appreciate it!
Body for Life Forum Message by BuckeyeBoy (107 posts) at 09:19 AM
Last year I did a srict diet the last 2 weeks (my own personal version of Hell diet I guess you could say). Here was my typical menu/workout those two weeks. 1. am cardio 45 min moderate intensity/6 egg whitess w salsa. couple tablespoons of peanut butter 2. chicken and cucumbers with vinegar. 3. Myoplex or EAS Precision Protein(Original: Myoplex is more filling if you feel your starving. 4. Lift weights/Fish (Gordon Fillets and Broccoli and/or asparagus).5. Evening brisk walk 45-60 6. Cottage Cheese 7. EAS Precision protein before bed. This wasn't fun and it wasn't prescribed by BFL but I felt it really brought out the definition I worked so hard for. That is going by memory. In a nutshell I would say reduce your carbs (especially in the evenings and increase your cardio. You probably need to toy around with different techniques and see what works for you. I read a ton of info on bodybuilding.com and went with a Spartan/Hell diet to cut up. As stated above, it does take a ton of discipline. I hope I can get my focus back that I had last year. Good luck,
Kevin Hubbard "To a 'T' for Julie"
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:49 PM
Let's bump this -- transformations like this are what make this site so great!
Body for Life Forum Message by bella2be (505 posts) at 10:00 PM
WOW!!! You are doing great!!!!!!!!!!! Improvements all over!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (562 posts) at 12:57 PM
Great Job FT, you look fabulous.
Keep at it and you will blow us away in challenge 2.
Rod
Body for Life Forum Message by KatieFeld-mom (180 posts) at 12:58 PM
WOW! You look great!
Great job!
Body for Life Forum Message by Lani (30 posts) at 01:09 PM
Awesome job! You look great! Keep the momentum and bust butt on challenge 2!
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:14 PM
Way to go!! Keep it up!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (562 posts) at 10:04 PM
Bump
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:04 AM
Thanks so much for your responses! I know I shouldn't care, but sometimes it just feels good to hear the "good job" from someone else.
amylame, are you also big framed? I wear a size 11 shoe and my hands are as big as my husbands!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:59 PM
You're doing great
Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1582 posts) at 07:51 PM
Hi JPS! You are doing a fantastic job!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Hugs,
Sylvia aka Cookie1135
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:18 PM
Are you sure you've lost a pound of muscle, and not just a pound of lean mass? There's a difference. Everything that is not counted in your body fat % is lean mass. That includes water, bones, water, muscles, water, blood, water, and whatever other organs and such you've got floating around in there. In other words, your lean mass is everything that isn't fat. You've probably lost water. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 09:29 PM
Great JOB!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:40 PM
hmmm sounds yummy ...! maybe I should go eat!
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 02:13 AM
You deserve it!!
Well Done!!!
God Bless from Cyprus
Pan
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:14 AM
You deserve the votes! You are doing so great! I too can't wait to see what you will look like after a few more months. Give yourself a big hug and pat on the back. You rock!
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (53 posts) at 12:39 PM
And you never said a word to me. I hardley have time to check tracker..well done, you earned your position and it couldn,t have happened to a nicer person.....go strong
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 04:25 PM
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Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:14 PM
Bump!
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 09:27 PM
Keep on kicking it!!
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:17 AM
Robin, I bet your photos will be excellent! Have fun at your photo shoot.
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:44 PM
What a great motivator! Keep up the great work. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:38 PM
yep Jim you are an inspiration around here !! that is for sure!!!
Thanks for all you share.. the positives are always welcome!!
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:58 PM
Good point Muscles!
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:55 PM
I can't see it as a problem ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:56 PM
By the way...WELCOME!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 07:08 AM
WOW Clara! Love the red bikini. I'm guessing you are a member of Michelle's red bikini society?
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (191 posts) at 07:23 AM
Wendy- darned right I am. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 07:24 AM
Well then I need to get to work and then go shopping for one too! :0)
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 04:28 PM
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Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (562 posts) at 10:04 PM
def looking good
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:47 PM
I agree, this is the time of year when people get sick, and it's also the time of year when people start new fitness/diet programs. I think it's a coincidence. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 09:51 PM
I think it has something to do with the change in season. It seems to get the best of 'em. Hang in there!
Body for Life Forum Message by fitprincess (22 posts) at 09:55 PM
I think some of it can be from working out at a gym... if you're new to it, remember to WASH YOUR HANDS when you're done! Think about how many people are in and out of there day in and day out touching all the same things.... eeewwww!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:25 AM
Sorry to hear you are hurt. Eat clean and get back in as soon as you can. You have done so well!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:42 PM
GREAT results so far! Sorry to hear about your injury, but this is for life, so do what you can do until you're all healed up and then get back to kickin' it hard! :)
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 09:46 PM
THat really stinks...I know I'd be pretty ticked. But Jess is right, its for LIFE so do what you can and remember that the eating is 80%+ of the success!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (562 posts) at 10:09 PM
I think that would be awesome.
Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (48 posts) at 10:21 PM
So, Mom's been reading my blog, eh? :P
I keep playing phone tag with C, but she didn't give me any details other than the fact that she, Aaron & Brian Baker will be at the EAS booth.
This is the first time that I've heard that Porter will be there.
Body for Life Forum Message by SweetEmotion (1220 posts) at 01:13 PM
CAsey told me about this thread. You guys are too nice. Thank you all so much.
lori
Body for Life Forum Message by Dorene (20 posts) at 02:31 PM
YEP...I watch your progress constantly...definately an INSPIRATION! You look fab
Dor :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:25 PM
TTT
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 04:25 PM
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Body for Life Forum Message by Megan'sMom (289 posts) at 04:38 PM
I don't really wanna grow up, but I'd be real tempted if I did and looked like that!
Laurie
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:51 PM
second that
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (562 posts) at 10:11 PM
Yep Casey is a lucky man!!!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Lani (30 posts) at 01:13 PM
Hi Robin,
I PM'd you on both Monday and Tuesday with my info but I haven't heard back from you. I just wanted to make sure my PM's are getting through. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by J-P-S-524 (171 posts) at 02:57 PM
Hey Robin;
196.3
I also had my BF% finally taken today:18%
~Tried To Amend My Carnivorous Habits~
Body for Life Forum Message by GetNFit (833 posts) at 03:26 PM
Thanks gang!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:58 PM
wait! I want my turn! I was in the bathroom!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by kitwhit (116 posts) at 06:33 PM
Go Rie tell us - If you aren't afraid of idiot flamers. . . but of course you're not!!
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:20 AM
You have done really well! I see a big difference in your midsection and I don't think your legs have gotten bigger. Great job!
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 02:37 AM
I see a great improvement!! Esp Mid section!
Keep the good work up
God bless from Cyprus
Pan
Body for Life Forum Message by leankat (33 posts) at 10:21 AM
I can definitely see a difference in you abs and back. And I wish I had lean long legs like yours! Looking good, and keep up the hard work, I'm impressed.
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (34 posts) at 10:41 AM
Girl, You have changed !!!! Your middle is smaller, your legs are smaller...you are doing great!!! Keep going !!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by JerryBraam.com (199 posts) at 10:45 AM
You ARE kidding right...
JB
Body for Life Forum Message by Dorene (20 posts) at 10:56 AM
I would die for your thighs!!! Long and believe me LEAN. I agree with everyone, you look GREAT.
Dor :)
Body for Life Forum Message by SuzyQ (46 posts) at 04:33 PM
Muscles_Marinara - good point, I concur. My daughter is lactose intolerant and had horrible issues until I figured it out.
I eat cottage cheese and yogurt almost everyday....maybe that's my problem. I didn't know you became more lactose intolerant as you got older....how did you know that?
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:28 PM
I think it's the eggs for me. Yep, I'm a gassy girl. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Paul (17 posts) at 01:21 AM
Hello again, thanks so much for the encouraging support. I am also looking forward to an optimistic and healthy future. Rai I will work hard for myself,so that you will be impressed come week 8 photo time. Thanks
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:07 AM
You have done so good! I can see a difference these 4 weeks in your stomach and collarbone area.Keep up the good work!
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 02:11 AM
I can see a big difference from week 0 to week 4!!
Well done buddy, keep at it....
Looking forward to week 8 pic
God bless from Cyprus
Pan
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:33 PM
WoW! You've come so far! Great work, you should be really, really proud of yourself. Keep it up!
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:52 PM
Great stuff Paul!!!..looking forward to seeing more!! Thanks for posting ...
Don't be shy~ we like the Happy stuff!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by AngRoCamp (164 posts) at 01:11 AM
Sorry but your Incredible Hulk comment actually made me laugh out loud!!! You're a crack up!!! You're going to do great!!! Way to make the commitment! In 6 weeks you'll blow your own mind with your progress pictures :)
Ang
Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (140 posts) at 02:10 AM
I know it is hard to put up the pics. I haven't even done it yet. Good job on having the courage to do so. You'll have a different body before you know it and won't even recognize that person in the photo. (not that it's that bad!)
Body for Life Forum Message by bella2be (505 posts) at 06:24 AM
Hey all,
Thanks for your comments and your PMs, I feel so encouraged!!! This is such an incredible group!
I am really looking forward to looking back on that picture from a better body. In fact, I have been eating so poorly the past 3 weeks especially that I hope the first 4 weeks shock my body back into some semblance of what I remember.
Ang-lol, it DOES look like the hulk, lol
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:57 PM
Im gonna second the "ya aint so bad"-lol
Body for Life Forum Message by Sammy (57 posts) at 06:40 PM
Carring mmy picture really helped me for sure
Body for Life Forum Message by Sammy (57 posts) at 06:40 PM
Carring mmy picture really helped me for sure
Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1582 posts) at 07:49 PM
Bella2be! I know it is hard to post those before picture!!! I don't think anyone really likes doing it!!! But, it is great for motivation!!!!! I wish you all the very best!!!
Hugs,
Sylvia aka Cookie1135
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:18 PM
You'll get there, B! :)
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:45 PM
Can't wait to see 'em! :)
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 09:55 PM
I have been waiting for you to post pics for a very long time, like many months. Don't worry, I'm not a stalker or anything! ROFL I think you've been arond here long enough, we are just here for support! I can't be as bad as you think!! Puh-leeze, if I can put up MY befores, so can YOU!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 02:27 AM
As so many of you know bill philips has a new talk show every monday (http://www.billphillips.com/) for more info.
For you who missed it and want to listen to it follow the following steps.
1. http://www.hayhouseradio.com create an account (its free)
2. Then go to http://www.hayhouseradio.com/subscribe.php?show_id=32 (thats bills archived show that was on Monday)
3. Then open your itunes. Here is the link to download it for free if you dont have it http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/.
Then click on the podcast icon on the site (hayhouse) and it will download it into your itunes. You can also configure this to automatically download all of bills shows in the future on your pc.
I know all this sounds complicated, i am an accountant, not much of a tecky so apologies if i have confused you.
Please feel free to contact me at anytime to explain all this further.
God Bless from Cyprus
Pan
Body for Life Forum Message by SupaFreak (1075 posts) at 06:23 AM
Pan---I created an account from Hay House and my password wouldn't work once I was in iTunes.
When you clicked the download button, did it ask you for your free hay house login id and password?
I even called them up and couldn't get it fixed. They said there could be an issue with the specific download.
I'll try again today.
Danielle
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 06:41 AM
Hey danielle
When i click on the podcast button in hayhouse a window pops up in itunes for the hayhouse username and password (its the same user name and password you use in hay house at the beginning of entering the site)
p.s if it still dont work pm me with ur un and pw and ill try it out
Body for Life Forum Message by SupaFreak (1075 posts) at 06:54 AM
It's working now. They must have had issues yesterday.
Yeah!
Danielle
Body for Life Forum Message by p_ano_man (15 posts) at 06:57 AM
This didn't work for me either.
Body for Life Forum Message by p_ano_man (15 posts) at 07:04 AM
I wonder if you have to wait a while before it works in itunes? My login in itunes isn't working.
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 08:11 AM
See danielles posts, maybe they had issues, try again and if still unsuccesful let me know
Body for Life Forum Message by p_ano_man (15 posts) at 11:41 AM
This time it worked. I suppose there is a time delay before your ID and password works in iTunes.
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 11:43 AM
Excellent, have you listened to it, lets all spread the word.
I mean actually hear bill talk for an hour and you have a chance to call in on a live show.
What a gift is that :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:56 PM
Cant wait to hear it!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:23 PM
Bump!
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (183 posts) at 05:15 AM
For me life is continuously being hungry. The meaning of life is not simply to exist, to survive, but to move ahead, to go up, to achieve, to conquer.
who said it?
Brian
Body for Life Forum Message by keaton7655 (30 posts) at 06:08 AM
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
I love these by the way!
Rene'
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (183 posts) at 06:40 AM
Man, that was quick! 53 Minutes. We have a winner!!!!!! Rene' is correct, Arnold Schwarzenegger said the above quote.
Congrats.
Brian
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:13 PM
Bump! Great quote!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:54 PM
I like it!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:24 PM
Bump! Awesome quote!
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (1014 posts) at 09:33 PM
LOL I read the first part, and Iwas like..Hey I'm continuously hungry...But then I realized it was like hungry for SUCCESS! LOL Just kidding, yes that is an awesome quote!!
:D
Body for Life Forum Message by Soccermom (12 posts) at 06:15 AM
Ok 6 weeks into this and 3 lbs and not much inches loss? What is up with this. Getting frustrated. REally exercise 6 days a week!!! More than 20 min cardio on my cardio days 40-45 min. Don't want to give up? Anybody else in this position. Is it my age?
Body for Life Forum Message by Jitter2001 (102 posts) at 06:30 AM
There are a few factors that may weigh in... Are you eating COMPLETELY clean? Are you eating 6 times a day? Your 40-45 min cardio may be too much... You need to do your HIIT 20 min cardio and allow the body to work itself into shape behind the scenes. Are you getting enough sleep? Are you hitting your 10's during weight training? And don't read into the lack of inch loss yet.. If you are doing all the correct things, your body WILL show you... May take some time, but if you are doing the right stuff, IT WILL WORK. It doesn't have a choice but to work, that is the beauty of BFL! As I have said before.. Be strong and move on!
-Ed-
Body for Life Forum Message by guitargoddess (152 posts) at 06:35 AM
yes in the same boat.... it's sinking but luckly I know how to swim.
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 06:39 AM
During my first challenge, I saw all my visible/measurable progress AFTER week 8. Make sure you are eating very clean, as this is at least 80% of the equation. I would go back to HIIT cardio 3 x a week and really make every one of them count! Stay focused, committed, and most of all have faith that all your hard work is going to pay off very soon:-)
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (191 posts) at 06:41 AM
First off, have you taken a recent progress picture? Odds are you are progressing more than you realize.
For the next 48 hours carry an index card with you. EVERYTHING that goes in your mouth goes on the card. I don't care if it's a peanut or a stick of gum. Sugar free, diet soda, whatever. Make sure you also record water intake.
At the end of 48 hours, plug the data into a calorie tracking program like Fitday.com. This will tell you how tight your eating is.
Let's start there and see what you find.
Body for Life Forum Message by bluepulse (15 posts) at 07:41 AM
Blempt~That is a good idea. I really like the idea of using the index card. That will help me immensely.
Soccermom~Do not get discouraged. Just stick with the program and follow it (closely) Be sure you try and eat the the timed intervals..ie not after 6:00pm etc.
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 07:48 AM
Sorry but I have to disagree with you bluepulse. I always eat #6 meal around 8 p.m, and I then go to bed between 9-10 p.m. However, I never eat a starchy carb like rice or potatoes in that meal. It's usually 1/2 c. of cottage cheese with cinnamon.
Don't give up the small meals soccermom! You have to keep that metabolism burning 24/7.
Body for Life Forum Message by reagan123 (124 posts) at 08:42 AM
SoccerMom,
Can you post what a day of your eating looks like?
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 08:50 AM
Read this: http://hussmanfitness.org/html/TSInsideOut.html
You ARE making progress, you just can't see it yet!
Body for Life Forum Message by Andrew80k (6 posts) at 08:51 AM
Are you getting enough to eat? Often if you work out really hard and try to cut back on what you are eating you will actually cause your body to start burning muscle mass and retaining fat. You have to feed your body to lose weight. But you have to feed it right. How many calories are you getting a day? If you are eating less than 1500 calories and doing this program you are probably starving your self. That's a pretty general statement, I know, and everyone is different, but I think for most people this is probably true. While you can survive on less than 1500 calories, you probably can't lose weight and exercise at this pace on that few. You might need more.
As an example, I watched my wife lose 60 pounds last year. I'm not going to mention the diet she was on, but I will say this. She worked out really hard and ate fairly well, but was really struggling to lose the weight after the birth of our second child. She has hypothyroidism and a very slow metabolism. She started this new diet plan and the weight just flew off, for a while. Then she just flatlined, couldn't make any progress. After a couple of weeks the folks helping her out increased her food intake, not by a little but by quite a bit. She started losing weight again. She was eating healthy and working out but not losing weight because she wasn't eating enough.
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 04:15 PM
Hang in there! You can do it!!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:38 PM
It's easy to get frustrated, but stick with it! And I have to second GeorgiaWendy -- eating after 6pm is fine. I eat TWO meals after 6pm every day. And Bill Phillips has addressed that theory on his eatingforlife.com site. I highly recommend reading the Q&A there.
Body for Life Forum Message by Spec V Me (29 posts) at 06:53 AM
I just began taking creatine last week and my abdominal measurement went up an inch and a half within just a few days. Has anyone ever experienced this? (I use that measurement to keep tabs on my body fat.
Body for Life Forum Message by Andrew80k (6 posts) at 08:56 AM
Yikes! I've been taking creatine for a while and this has never happened to me. I'm not going to say that it doesn't happen because I haven't studied it all that much. The things that usually increase on me is my biceps, quads, triceps, and pecs. I've never seen that on my waist though. Have you done anything else that might cause it?
Body for Life Forum Message by Spec V Me (29 posts) at 12:48 PM
Yeah, maybe eating too much for 4 days. But I just feel bloated, and I never feel bloated. Plus, right around the same time I started doing decline sit-ups with weights, that could be it right there, a little muscle explosion maybe?
Body for Life Forum Message by Spec V Me (29 posts) at 07:05 AM
When you think that you can't, take a look at this guy:
http://www.blue-n-gold.com/halfdan/thromes.htm
Our little challenge is nothing compared to what this guy has done.
Body for Life Forum Message by LOVE4KIDS (60 posts) at 08:17 AM
Wow! Is that for real?????? Karyn
Body for Life Forum Message by Spec V Me (29 posts) at 12:50 PM
As far as I know.
Body for Life Forum Message by Janie (42 posts) at 01:09 PM
DANG. Now that is exciting! One reason I am getting in shape now- I realized that with my two daughters leaving home soon I'll still have roughly 40 years to do whatever I want! My honey and I are getting excited about the prospects, so I'm going to bookmark this guys page! THANKS.
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 05:55 PM
Wow!
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:11 PM
bump
Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (893 posts) at 11:49 PM
one more ..to the top.bump..
Body for Life Forum Message by Kimberlys~BFL~Destiny (17 posts) at 08:33 AM
I have a question, Hubby and i are on week 6, he has lost 9 lbs., no increase in measurements....someone he works with told him that he is looking too thin...his goal was to build muscle and bulk up....any suggestions? He is thinking Phosphagen and whey protien...how fast do you start to see resaults after starting the supplements?
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (34 posts) at 08:44 AM
Hi Kimberlys!!!!!
My hubby started on Betagen and w/in three weeks he showed huge gains. You can look up his profile under: docharvey. He would love to email your hubby if he wants any help at all.
Kristyn
Body for Life Forum Message by Kimberlys~BFL~Destiny (17 posts) at 08:50 AM
Wow, great results. I will let hubby know about the e-mail.
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 08:51 AM
Is he eating enough? Building muscle without weight loss requires more food than losing fat. He may need to increase his portions.
Body for Life Forum Message by Kimberlys~BFL~Destiny (17 posts) at 08:58 AM
Kristyn...i have to say, you look great also...hope hubby and i can get the resuts that you and your hubby have!
J-Dub....we increased his food last week and he didnt loose weight but still didnt gain inches anywhere ?
Body for Life Forum Message by Kimberlys~BFL~Destiny (17 posts) at 09:00 AM
J-Dub i should have said he didnt lose weight, but did loose inches still
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (34 posts) at 09:59 AM
Thank you so much !!!! You guys are going to do great. Doing this together really has brought us closer together, because we are encouraging one another daily !!!! You will both just love this opportunity!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Kimberlys~BFL~Destiny (17 posts) at 11:52 AM
Kristyn, My husband checked out your profiles, and was blown away, he wanted to know what week your hubby started taking betagen? Is this both your 1st challange?
Body for Life Forum Message by VanessaDG (24 posts) at 12:53 PM
I just have to say the I checked out both of your profiles and you both look awesome!!! I definately don't think he is too thin...!!
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (34 posts) at 01:19 PM
Hi,
Yes, this is our 1st challenge. We use the EFL book for all of our meals and we haven't found one yet that we don't like. My hubby started taking Betagen on his 6th week. I know he follows the directions on the container which tell him to take it 3 times a day...he says it tastes like orange Tang..which he loves (lol)...
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (34 posts) at 01:20 PM
Thank you Vanessa!!!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by scrappinmichelle (67 posts) at 01:24 PM
Kristyn, you and your hubby look fabulous! Wow! I wish I could get my hubby on board!
Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (34 posts) at 02:01 PM
Once he starts seeing your results, Michelle, I bet he will come around....thank you so much for the compliment....!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Kimberlys~BFL~Destiny (17 posts) at 08:25 PM
Thank Krystin, My hubby said you have helped out alot with the info. and your hubbies pics are a real insperation. We will be watching you two very close :) By the way we too are eating from EFL book and love it!
By the way....are you taking supplements also?
Body for Life Forum Message by FitGirl86 (19 posts) at 10:16 AM
Hi all...
I have been doing this for two weeks (well, this is the 3rd week) and I am UP 5-6 lbs from where I started. I feel fat and gross and I think I might just quit now.
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 10:26 AM
Hey there! Don't quit! Talk to us. What's your program been like? Where are you feeling stuck? How can we help you stay on track?
Body for Life Forum Message by tgantt (34 posts) at 10:26 AM
FitGirl86
Don't do it. No one can make you be committed, but its hard not to feel the affects of this program when you are doing it right. I get frustrated when looking at the scale (I have 60 LBS to lose), but I continue to try on pants that did not fit in the beginning. You need to give this program 100% for 12 weeks. If you don't notice any positive changes at that time, then consider not continuing. I would be willing to bet that you will.
Body for Life Forum Message by FitGirl86 (19 posts) at 10:28 AM
I am trying SO hard to do this, but each time I go on a high protein diet, I gain weight. My belly gets big. It's terrible. =|
Body for Life Forum Message by NormRebs (369 posts) at 10:29 AM
FitGirl86, you need to give it more than 3 weeks to see results. How is your eating and weight training? If you give up now you'll regret it later and if you stay the course you'll thank youself for believing in yourself!!
Body for Life Forum Message by leankat (33 posts) at 10:29 AM
Hi FitGirl186,
I can tell you are frustrated with your recent results. I think the changes all take time, and it relly takes time to change your mental perspective to encourage a positive attitude about your body image. You are young, NOT overweight, and need help to see yourself in a more positive way. This program is as much aboutbuilding self esteem as about building up your body.
Don't feel bad if you aren't perfect. I find that I can put so much pressure on myself I couldn't possibly live up to my own expectations. Maybe you are doing the same. Be kind to yourself!
The increased weight may be related to building lean muscle mass, because you are at a normal BMI already.
Work on giving yourself positive encouragement, don't beat yourself up if each day isn't perfect and be patient, you are young, beautiful and have your whole life ahead of you!
Body for Life Forum Message by FitGirl86 (19 posts) at 10:31 AM
O.k. I know I should be beating myself up, but I haven't weighed as much as I do today in about 5 YEARS. Regardless of diet. How can I not be frustrated? I know for a fact that if I stop with the protein, go back to 3 meals a day, the weight will come off again. This is why I quit my first challenge. The first 4 weeks I got too big for my clothes. ugh.
Body for Life Forum Message by betterthanaverage (5 posts) at 10:33 AM
this isn't going to help much - but perhaps someone else has some ideas?
i'm on my 4th week. have gained 8 lbs. all my clothes are tight. this is the heaviest i've been in 4 years. i'm used to eating what i want when i want, and if that means skipping meals, that's what i've done. but i'm trying to follow the 5 meals a day plan - and i do admit that it's really helped even out my appetite - i'm no longer ravenous at night and i like that feeling. i'm also eating healthier, and i'm more conscious of preparing well rounded meals.
but i have to admit, i feel miserable. i hate being this heavy and having my clothes fit like this. i wake up depressed because i know it's another day of being heavy.
and all this is happening when i decided to do something good for myself like b4l? i'm shocked.
but i promised myself when i started that the most important goal was to FINISH. i have a tendancy to overthink things, exactly as i want to do now because it seems to be backfiring...yet how can skipping meals, eating poorly and doing half-ass workouts really be better for me?
so i'm sticking to this. but i'm not happy about it.
i called the eas hotline - very helpful. bought some supplements. they told me that it may be that my body has built muscle and not yet started burning fat, so i'm stuck with layers of both right now. well, it can start ANYTIME NOW!!!
hope that wasn't too much of a rant. if anyone has some advice, pointers, support...i (we) really really need it now.
Body for Life Forum Message by Suz2lose (98 posts) at 10:34 AM
FG86 - Hi there...please don't get discouraged. We all have those days to where it's easier just to quit than commit. Committment takes a lot of hard work and we are all in this together...lean on us. You made the perfect choice in posting your discouragement. You watch and see how many of us are willing to take you under our wings and support through this process. We want you to be successful. You have to stay positive and look at the big picture and push towards that end result. At the same time - be sure to enjoy your day to day successes..even if you are gaining lbs (which is very normal)..you have to be proud of your choices to exercise and eat right and walk away from the junk food, taking that walk around your street, etc...you have to be proud of those baby steps! Youre always one step closer to your goal as long as you continute TO that goal. We are proud of you and thank you for posting your concerns...You can do it!
Body for Life Forum Message by Can'tStopMe (577 posts) at 10:38 AM
No no no...everyone here is wrong.
Quit.
Without a doubt quit.
By this time, with all the work you've put into it, you should be able to crack walnuts with your ass.
Watching what you eat and what time you eat it IS a pain in the neck. I want to quit too. I want to go back to eating a 90 percent sugar diet because god knows I feel soooo much better not having to think about it. It may be because I'm sleeping most of the time but whatever...pass me some chocolate and chips!!! Bring on the movie theatre popcorn and fried chicken!!!
Here's to quitting!! I'm all over it.
Body for Life Forum Message by TNT's-MOM (375 posts) at 10:41 AM
Ok I just read your profile you said you ate poorly 1st week and had the flu, so you need to give this program more of a chance. Are you watching your portion sizes and combining this with the proper carbs, this is not a high protien diet it is a sensible combination of the right foods. You say you are up 5 or 6 lbs and bloating, how were your free days? did you really go crazy? If so that 5 or 6 lbs could be water retention, try watching your salt intake and make sure you are getting enough water, if you think you are in the bathroom all the time then you are getting enough water! LOL hang in there with this group and this program, sometimes you gain a little at first you build muscle then the fat starts melting off, you don't look like you have much to loose so you will not see the dramatic results immediatly but take some pic's stick with it 12 weeks follow the program to a T takes some pics and I think you will see the results. Good Luck TNT mom
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 10:44 AM
FitGirl - this is not a high protein diet - it's a balanced diet. Why not list exactly what you are eating right now including portion sizes.
Out of curiosity, list your typical diet prior to BFL.
My first thoughts were that you've put on muscle and haven't started to burn fat - YET!!! Are you following the program exactly? Any PMS bloat right now?
Body for Life Forum Message by reagan123 (124 posts) at 10:44 AM
what's your day of eating look like?
stick with this... it does work if you follow the plan.
Body for Life Forum Message by betterthanaverage (5 posts) at 10:48 AM
sorry - somehow i missed everyone elses reply in my quick response to the intial comment. it's actually really comforting to hear that someone else is stuggling. i'm also somewhat close to my ideal weight - 5'10" and (NORMALLY) 150. but now i'm 162 and NONE of my clothes fit and i've not felt like this...well, i've never actually not been able to find something in my closet that fits. maybe a bit too snug, but workable. it's pretty horrifying, especially when every day i'm disciplining myself to do the right thing.
anyway - i joined this program to see RESULTS. i'm tired of aimless workouts in the gym and no changes to body fat or muscle definition. so while i'm not too obsessed with the scale (i know muscle weighs more than fat), i DO want my clothes to fit better and i want to see some nice looking muscles.
my big reward at the end of this 12 weeks is an appt' with a wardrobe consultant. but to be honest, what scaring me even more is that my boyfriend started talking about rings and engagments, and right now...well, i just don't want to look back on this 'wonderful' time in my life and remember feeling fat (and i don't want the pictures to document it either). at this point, i don't think my normal ring size would even fit on my hand.
am i just whining? cause this is my first time saying anything on this site and i've come out NOT saying anything positive..
well, you'll get me on my good days too. just keepin' it real... :) i'm just happy to see someone else going through this because i scoured the site before and i couldn't find anything.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 10:57 AM
Oh jeez, I just looked at your profile. Girl, I'm gonna give it to you straight like people in the past have done for me. If you don't like it, too bad.
Your weight is fine. Are you measuring your bodyfat regularly? Has that changed? If you continue this program as outlined you will see amazing progress. I do remember embarking on a weight training program years ago and I gained about 8 lbs in 2 weeks. No it was not all muscle and neither is your 5 lbs in 2 weeks. Who knows what it is - could be water for various reasons.
Here's the sad part. You're 25 years old if you think that lowering your protein intake and not weight training is going to give you a 115 - 120 lb body without bodyfat you've got a rude awakening coming. Each year it will get worse. Trying to maintain that type of figure will get you nowhere. If you do go that route remember my words when you're 35 or 40 and you're 135 or 140 lbs and you have to eat less & less and any type of food you eat goes straight to storage (as in fat).
You've got everything going for you right now - no weight to actually loose, 22% bodyfat is not bad at all. Its only been 2 weeks!!!!! Give yourself 12 weeks - applying yourself 100%, including the diet, you could very well end up at 13 - 15% bodyfat, the same weight and be everything everyone around here is trying to look like.
Body for Life Forum Message by Minka (71 posts) at 11:09 AM
i wonder if the "look" you are going for is more skinny/scrawny than healthy, muscular, fit? if thats the case, you should quit and be skinny (which can still be a high body fat %)
if you want a healthy strong body, then give it a chance.
i would ask about your portion sizes, your HIIT (are you actually going to failure) and what you are eating.
but first fitgirl..you need to decide exactly what you want to look like and how healthy you want to be.
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 11:12 AM
For a true example of what Flower's talking about, take a look at my very first before photo. THIS is what you get from starting out in your early 20s at 120 pounds and then coasting without paying any attention whatsoever to your food and weight training! And honey, the complaints and the whining only get louder.
Body for Life Forum Message by LOVE4KIDS (60 posts) at 11:19 AM
FitGirl86 said:
Hi all...
I have been doing this for two weeks (well, this is the 3rd week) and I am UP 5-6 lbs from where I started. I feel fat and gross and I think I might just quit now.
Body for Life Forum Message by amkazen (357 posts) at 11:22 AM
I agree with flower...just wait until you are older. Start now in developing good nutrition and exercise habits. Do not wait until you are 35 or 40 to start because it will be far more difficult then.
And, as for the scale, if it bothers you to see what is going on, don't use it. If the clothes you had are feeling tight now, tough. Keep at this because one day during the 12 weeks you will see a dramatic change and you'll be saying, WOW!, and "Why the heck did this not happen sooner in the 12 weeks?" I weigh myself daily as a guideline and do not let it affect me other than some days I say "GRRR...Stupid scale!! I'll show it, and then that day I watch what I eat more closely and make sure I truly hit my 10's!" I do not get discouraged or consider giving up. And, since I have been weighing myself daily for so long, I can honestly say my weight fluctuates 3 - 5 pounds daily, from the morning to night. I think that is bizarre but that is my body.
Anyway, keep plugging away, review your nutrition and workouts, ensure you are doing BFL correctly, make changes if necessary, and keep active on this site, letting us know how you are progressing. Swallow some of that youthful pride & knowledge and listen to some of us older people. We have been where you are, have lived it, and we do know what we are saying about how the body changes as it gets older. It is far easier at your age to make changes in lifestyle than 10 - 20 years later. DO NOT GIVE UP!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 11:23 AM
touche Hot Body................if we could only go back to that age and weight and do it all over again huh.
And oh yes, about the whining........oh yes, how very true.
Body for Life Forum Message by LOVE4KIDS (60 posts) at 11:27 AM
Fitgirl86- I guess I would suggest putting the scale away for a little bit and just focus on following the program. I found if I just do the exercise ,eat the authorized foods in the right portions, BFL works. I don't weigh my self everyday and I am not counting out each carb and protein at each meal. I am taking a relaxed approach and not over analyzing things and I feel like I am having pretty good results so far. Try and stick with it I think you will be glad you did. Karyn
Body for Life Forum Message by sixpack (114 posts) at 11:35 AM
I have a concern about the working out 3-4 times a day. Your body needs some time to recover. If you have been overdoing the workout and not eating enough good stuff then you body is going to use up its muscle and fat and thus a small scale weight. When the body suddenly gets good food and a chance to recover it will build the muscle back up but is going to keep with the fat storage because it remembers that it might get starved again and overworked. I didn't see the point at which my body finally started to change until week 8.
Eating right and Exersicing right make sense and sometimes it take time for the body to adjust. Be patient. And I recommend mesuring bodyfat % and how you feel with energy for the next 8 weeks and not scale weight.
Keep us posted on what you both decide.
Body for Life Forum Message by nola (122 posts) at 11:37 AM
Another thing...you could be bloated/constipated from the increase in protein. It takes a little while for your body to adjust to the increase in protein but it does happen. It's a pretty common thing to hear people complain about the bloating in the first few weeks.
And have you eaten something particularly salty? I had pork roast Monday night and Tuesday morning I weighed 4 pounds more than normal. Even today I still can't get my wedding ring on even though my weight is back down, I can still feel that I'm holding onto some extra fluid. The scale does not tell the whole story....
You'd have to eat mountains of food to really gain 6 pounds in 2 weeks.
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (88 posts) at 11:41 AM
Hey FitGirl,
You know what id do. If you feel that your going wrong somewhere (you must, its impossible for this not to work for you) write us down a typical day (meal and workout) and we can all chip in and see.
BUT, if you follow the book to a T which constitutes
1. Proper Nutrition
2. Intense Workouts (hitting those 10's)
3. Proper Supplementation
4. Having the correct mind set
5. Drinking lots of water
You cant go wrong. This is the first time i have done the challenge by the book and i measured my success by the tape measure and how my clothes fit, definately not the scale.
Dont quit - Let us help
God Bless from Cyprus
Pan
Body for Life Forum Message by losingit (12 posts) at 11:43 AM
Agree with Karyn, put the scales away for the next few weeks at least. I never bother weighing myself (well maybe every 6 weeks out of curiosity). I can tell my body is changing by the way my clothes fit and by how much lighter I feel when i'm running. I have more pride looking at my figure in the mirror, than the figure on the scale.
Chris
Body for Life Forum Message by FitGirl86 (19 posts) at 11:52 AM
CantStopMe -
I am sorry to say that your sarcasm is less than appreciated. I'm not an out of shape lard ass who has never worked out. I've always been athletic, and I've never experienced weight GAIN with any program. Hence the frustration I'm feeling.
HotBody- I haven't spent all these years "coasting" in regards to diet and exercise. Perhaps you were a couch potato, or know others who were, but I'd appreciate it if you don't assume those things about me, as they do not apply.
To the people who offered some support, thanks VERY much. I need to vent sometimes. To the rest of you, well, I'm sorry you felt the need to attack a complete stranger and I'm sorry if me being down on myself pisses you off.
Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (811 posts) at 11:54 AM
Wha? I was talking about myself, not you. I was merely trying to be supportive.
Good luck with everything.
Body for Life Forum Message by Framed (159 posts) at 11:57 AM
I know some people get bloated with too much protein. I believe if you stick to the small quantities of protein in your 6 mini meals, you will be fine. Go ahead and make those protein portions very conservative. I too feel it can be too much for me. So I mix up the types of proteins and I keep them as small as possible. I don't do any powders or bars. Just food. I think the powders and bars can give you a gassy full feeling. Maybe that is part of it. And as someone else mentioned, you may be a tad constipated. If you were eating less and also very little protein, you may feel your digestive system is slow. Drink your water. Go easy on your portions. You did NOT gain 6 pounds of fat or fat and muscle in 2 weeks. Your body will adjust to this. You are lucky. If you adopt this lifestyle now, you will enjoy a fit and healthy body for the rest of your life.
Body for Life Forum Message by bethkk (283 posts) at 12:21 PM
Umm...didn't you post two days ago that you had a HUGE cheat day? I know that after a big cheat day, I can be up 4-5 pounds because of water retention and bloating. It's not fat.
If you only have a small amount to lose, it's gonna come off more slowly. And if you continue to "eat poorly" and have "less than stellar" workouts, you won't see any progress. This is a way of life, not a diet. If you give it 100%, you WILL see progress.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 12:25 PM
Can you not post your diet? It may help.
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (778 posts) at 12:30 PM
Fitgirl...I feel your frustration, but do hope that you give it a little more time, and as some others mentioned, follow the book to a T as far as eating and excercise is concerned. Try your best to do the 12 weeks. If after 12 weeks you still feel frustrated, then you can make another decision. I do hope that you reconsider and stay with it because I think you will do fantastic and the pounds that you are seeing now will only be a figment of your imagination down the road.
Good luck with what you decide to do.
HUGS!
Jennifer
Body for Life Forum Message by Spec V Me (29 posts) at 12:39 PM
I don't get it. You lost a pound your first week, said that you ate like crap the second week and now you are up 5 or 6 pounds. 127-1+5=131. Yeah, it looks like regular old math to me. I do the same thing. I just ended my first official challenge last week and went on a binge for 4 days, gaining a pound of fat each day. Now it is going to take the first two weeks of challenge 2 to make up for what I did in 4 days. It is plain and simple math, period. You follow the program, you loose 2lbs of fat a week. Want to look like a swimsuit model? From your starting point it would take you only 8 weeks. Thats right, break it down into small goals. In 8 short weeks you can have a nice 23 inch waist and 34 inch hips. If you really stick to the program from your starting point you will weigh between 117-120 and be the envy of everybody on this board. Don't give up.
Body for Life Forum Message by Framed (159 posts) at 12:50 PM
Another thing to keep in mind...when you weigh less, it takes fewer calories to maintain. You will not drop 2 pounds a week. I was playing with the numbers on one of the calorie/workout sites (can't remember what it was) but when I increased my starting weight in the equation, I was burning more in the workouts and needed more calories per day. Since you are close to your ideal weight, your workouts and nutrition will show up in your definition. Not on the scale. I have read other's posts about dropping 6 or 7 pounds and have felt somewhat envious, even tho I'm at my ideal weight. I guess it just feels like they are getting better results. But it is just different results. You are at the fine tuning stage. It is not going to be a numbers game. It is going to be about how strong you feel, how much you improve in your HIIT and how toned and defined your body looks.
P.S. I don't think a goal of 115 lbs. means that you want to be skinny. I'm 115 at 5' 5" and I'm getting buff!
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2371 posts) at 12:51 PM
Oooooohhhhhhh, you ate like crap for a week & workouts weren't too great? I did not know this. This sheds a whole new light on the situation. Well I've certainly put on that kind of weight after a week like that. Get back on track and it'll come off again.
Body for Life Forum Message by Spec V Me (29 posts) at 01:06 PM
I disagree with Framed on the "you will not drop 2 pounds" comment. Those calculators are for the average lazy American. When on the BFL you gain muscle and it is metabolically active. So even though we are losing weight we usually gain muscle and hence burn more calories.
Body for Life Forum Message by Framed (159 posts) at 01:32 PM
Spec, it's pretty tough if you are already at your ideal weight to lose 2 pounds if you are gaining the muscle.
I'm not a "lazy American". While following BFL to the T, I just won't see numbers drop on the scale. I don't have the fat to lose. So if it kept dropping, I'd be wasting my muscles too. For some of us 1/2 a pound a week is a reasonable expectation. Or...no weight loss and even some gain as the muscles increase. Look at LeanZ. His scale is going UP while doing the same diet and exercise program. Swapping out fat (what little he has) for muscle means a jump in the number on the scale for him.
I'm just saying, expectations should be different for everyone based on where you are. Those with the most to lose seem to have the biggest losses in a weeks period. And it makes sense.
Body for Life Forum Message by sandiepooh (15 posts) at 01:43 PM
Hey Fitgirl, I remember listening to Bill Phillips radio show that he said it is mental as well as physical. I have also experienced that when you are attempting to decrease the bad things like detox so to speak whether is from smoking, eating wrong foods or what not our bodies tend to dispell all the toxins that were harming us, that goes well to our mental state or our emotions. Have you ever worked out and started to cry for no reason? Its because your body was yearning for some attention and your hormones and brain etc... are receiving pure energy and oxygen that is filtered through your lungs and pores. Just let it out, take a deep cleansing breath and let it all out but don't give up. We are not giving up on you. Sometimes things can be refocused by simply taking a deep breath and ask yourself "Do I love me?" Why am I doing this? Am I really unhappy or is it because I just have so much going on that I just need to scream? You know I find a good pillow and put it over my face and scream as loud as I can until I am horse or start to cry then I get mad with myself and get of my butt and start doing something about it. Everyone here is rooting for you. Sometimes people use reverse psychology like Can'tstopme. I think that works for some people not all. And also some look at your past habits, but no one is blaming you. Everyone here is supporting you and want to keep you focused and on track. But remember "To thy ownself be true" No one can do it but you.
Hugs and kisses
Sandiepooh
Body for Life Forum Message by nola (122 posts) at 01:46 PM
No one is attacking you....No one assumed you were a lard-ass. I think the bloating is making you a bit grumpy, but I hope that does not keep you from the forum because that would just be silly. So you don't like sarcasm...ok, but that's a pretty common thing in this forum and it's not a personal attack. It's the internet after all....
Body for Life Forum Message by SweetEmotion (1220 posts) at 01:51 PM
Just from the one picture you have posted, you look like a small body frame anyway, maybe you are gaining muscle. Don't quit, stay with it.
Lori
Body for Life Forum Message by sober-stud (58 posts) at 02:03 PM
Hey - I have been feeling a little down myself because my weight hasn't changed much. But when I saw an old friend he
couldn't believe how much muscle I have put on. So hopefully its moving from gut to elsewhere.
I still need to lose 20-25 lbs so that my muscles show through.
But when I think back - I really have not been eating clean. I've been getting in my work outs but doing little
cheats here and there on eating that add up.
Its hard to eat totally clean for one day. But I bet if you do - and control the portions you will see the results like some of those in the top 20. Not necessarily the champions since I think they use trick photography and plastic surgery....
Body for Life Forum Message by fjcastro (18 posts) at 02:05 PM
You should do what you think is best. Examine your goals and see if they are compatible with the Body for Life program. I mean, if you just want to lose weight, like you have in the past, do it your way. It's hard to follow through with something if your heart isn't really in it, and that's not a criticism, it's reality. You really have to want to do the program in order to succeed. As a great person once said "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Best of luck to you no matter what you decide to do.
Body for Life Forum Message by betterthanaverage (5 posts) at 02:36 PM
hey everyone -
maybe i posted wrong as it was my first time - do i need to start a new thread? i jumped in because i'm having the same issues with weight AND size gain (on my 4th week) and had not seen any other posts like it, and was hoping to get a little support myself (not to steal fitgirl's thunder, but i'm feeling pretty out of sorts myself). please let me know if i should be posting differently - kinda new to this.
if not - than here's a bit more...
i'm somewhat different from FitGirl in that i'm NOT 5'4" and thin. I'm 5'10" and incredibly average. I'm somewhat naturally lean, never weighed more than I do now, which is 160, usually I'm at 150 without watching diet/exercise. i've always worked out, but i'm definitly one who will do 60 minutes on the elliptical, get a good sweat, but watch tv the entire time. apparently it takes more focus than that if i want to look better than average. weight lifting makes me feel great, but have never seen many physical results.
to be honest, my before pics are so bad and i've gone downhill since that i don't dare post them (yet). actually feeling worse than i have in probably 5 years (alot of that is due to just feeling heavier).
anyway, that's my wrap. i wont' give up, but i'm honestly not feeling hopeful, AT ALL. just doing this now because i promised i would finish NO MATTER what. just feeling stressed, and added pressure (read above posts) that get me panicked if this doesn't work and makes me quit and go back to my old ways which at least i know will make feel better.
definitly giving 100% at the gym, and added some extra cardio - not as intense as the 20 min sessions. thinking i may post some food diaries and get your feedback.
sorry for the long post, but one more thing. i am floored at how supportive you all are. even with fitgirl being kinda bitchy and close enough to her ideal weight, you all handle it like mature adults. i especially appreciated the sarcasm...cause really, how can we rationalize quitting? to go back to mindless eating and unfocused workouts? it's stupid.
Body for Life Forum Message by Rie (611 posts) at 02:58 PM
Im sorry fitgirl that you saw cantstopme and others as attacking you- its called the toughlove/realitycheck combo- its a one/two punch- think about it, what are your alternatives? Obviously you started this for a reason. Time is gonna pass regardless what you do- and if you feel like you started it because things were getting out of hand, they will continue to do so.They arent't attacking you- they are putting the alternatives right where they need to be- in your face. You are 7 pounds above whats considered ideal weight. As you said youre physically active, and aren't a "lard ass" (sounds kinda attack-ative)- Go look at jsheltons profile. Imagine living with what this wonderful guy has had to live with- and yet even though he got really sick, lost friends, his job, and almost his life-he perservered.You're a lucky girl- you're fitgirl.I have a feeling you dont give up so easily in your life- so dont give up now.
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (443 posts) at 02:58 PM
Don't ever let the word QUIT enter your mind. Are you familiar with Donna Szabo? She is listed here under her full name. She gained eight pounds during her challenge before she went on to become an EAS champ.
Just think about what is possible if you really change your attitude and your mindset.
Body for Life Forum Message by J-P-S-524 (171 posts) at 03:22 PM
FG86...all I am going to say is, give it a chance, it's a 12 week challenge. After the 12 weeks are up, if you don;t like the results, then you can always go to what works best for you. A friend of mine is doing weight watchers & not working out at the moment. Her reason, because she wants to see here scale numbers drop. It's working for her, she has a goal in mind & at that time she is going back to working out & will not worry about the number anymore. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
~Tried To Amend My Carnivorous Habits~
Body for Life Forum Message by Framed (159 posts) at 03:51 PM
betterthanaverage...don't want you to feel ignored. But all that I said in my posts applied to you too. You aren't HEAVY so you aren't going to drop pounds fast. You need to really look at the portion sizes. These 6 mini meals really don't amount to more food than a normal person eats in 3 meals. Basically you are taking your 3 meals and splitting them 6 ways.
I think you will find that it all comes together for you around week 8. Suddenly the fat is gone and you can SEE the nice lean muscles. Hang in there. Be careful on your portion sizes. Really keep that protein to the size of a deck of cards (no larger) and keep the carb to your fist.
If you stick to it. It is going to make you stronger, tighter and slimmer. Just give it time.
Body for Life Forum Message by motleybtm (3 posts) at 05:46 PM
Fitgirl,
I understand you may get some bloating with the increased protein. Someone mentioned above that the bars/shakes can cause a gassy/bloated feeling - that's the case for me, at least where bars are concerned. I think that person gave you really good advice about easing in with the protein.
Have you read through hussmanfitness.org? It's a really fantastic site that anyone who does BFL type training and nutrition should read. He breaks it all down so you understand why it works, and what you have to do to make it work. Here's the skinny (no pun intended) on that 6 lbs you gained: for every .lb of fat you lose or gain, it means taking in or creating a deficit of 3,500 calories. Think about it: to gain 6 lbs means taking in an excess of 21,000 calories. That's a lot for one week. So while you *may* have eaten high calorie for a week, but chances are you only succeeded in gaining a pound or two. And the vice versus is true: to lose 2 lbs in a week you have to have a deficit of 7,000 calories. It's likely what you have gained is water. Are you drinking lots of water every day? That will help you to keep from retaining.
Listen, people get very defensive when a program they follow (and KNOW that it work) is doubted by someone. People who have followed the program, eating clean and pushing hard, KNOW that BFL can work for you. So give it some time, and keep true to it. I can't tell you how much I LOVE the muscles that I have. It will come, if you just stay the course.
Good luck!! :)
Heather
Body for Life Forum Message by betterthanaverage (5 posts) at 06:16 PM
hey framed - thanks for the response. yes, was and am feeling left out but i think that's just what i get for jumping in on someone else's thread.
i've taken your advice (EVERYONE's advice) and checked out that calorie-tracking website, and Donna's bio. As for the calorie tracking (I'm assuming this is where I can make changes as I'm feeling pretty good about my workouts), all i can say is...BRING IT ON. i think us 'average' girls think we can get away with snacking since we're closer to our goal weight, or because we're active enough, or hell, just being 5'10"...i can usually hide my weight easier than my shorter friends.
but bottom line is: if i have to learn to be accountable for every bite of food i take into my bod, in order to see a change, then i'm ready to take on that challenge. it will be interesting to see too the effect my eating has on my mood, energy, health, etc. i like how that online food tracker breaks it all down for you.
so thanks everyone for the advice. trying to look at the positive here, and get the most out of this experience, even if it's not what i expected.
Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1582 posts) at 07:45 PM
FitGirl, Hang in there!!! You are probably gaining muscle, and that's a good thing!!! Stick with BFL, It Works!!!! You have got to give it the full 12 weeks, and you need to follow the program by the book!!!
1. Eat Clean
2. Don't Cheat
3. Don't Miss Workouts
4. Hit Your 10's
5. Set Goals, Write Them Down, Read Them Everyday, Add New Goals As Needed
6. Never Give Up
7. Visualize Yourself The Way You Want To Be! Hold That Vision Until You Have Reached Your Goals!! We Become What We Believe!!! Believe that you are a success and you will become a success!!!
8. GIVE IT YOUR ALL!!!!!
YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!!
Hugs,
Sylvia aka Cookie1135
Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (409 posts) at 09:22 PM
Oh, please don't quit. You need to give this a full 12 weeks before you can determine whether it's working or not... Read this site: http://www.hussmanfitness.org for some really great information. Focus on your meals, make sure you're eating 100% clean, focus on your workouts and hitting your 10s.
This is NOT a high protein diet. It is higher than some, yes, but not really high. Maybe pay attention to specifically which foods make you feel bloated and make substitutions for those.
Please give this time, I really think you'll be glad you did!
Body for Life Forum Message by Trainwreck (2 posts) at 10:25 AM