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Big Brother 12 (USA)

Here's the place to chat about big brother. Here is the cast to make it easier to discuss names:

Name: Andrew Gordon Age: 39 Current Residence: Miami Beach, Fla. Occupation: Podiatrist

Name: Annie Whittington Age: 27 Current Residence: Tampa, Fla. Occupation: Bartender

Name: Brendon Villegas Age: 30 Current Residence: Riverside, Calif. Occupation: High School Swim Coach

Name: Britney Haynes Age: 22 Current Residence: Huntington, Ark. Occupation: Hotel Sales Manager

Name: Enzo Palumbo Age: 32 Current Residence: Bayonne, N.J. Occupation: Insurance Adjuster

Name: Hayden Moss Age: 24 Current Residence: Tempe, Ariz. Occupation: College Student

Name: Kathy Hillis (a.k.a. tarantula eyelashes) Age: 40 Current Residence: Texarkana, AR Occupation: Deputy Sheriff - Sergeant

Name: Kristen Bitting Age: 24 Current Residence: Philadelphia, Pa. Occupation: Boutique Manager

Name: Lane Elenburg Age: 24 Current Residence: Decatur, Texas Occupation: Oil Rig Salesman

Name: Matt Hoffman Age: 32 Current Residence: Elgin, Ill. Occupation: Web designer

Name: Monet Stunson Age: 24 Current Residence: Glen Carbon, Ill. Occupation: Model

Name: Rachel Reilly Age: 26 Current Residence: Las Vegas, Nev. Occupation: Chemistry Graduate Student/VIP Cocktail Waitress

Name: Ragan Fox Age: 34 Current Residence: West Hollywood, Calif. Occupation: College Professor


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Well the "big twist" didn't last long this season! I don't know why I watch this show, but I do, and have since season one. I am even thinking of getting the live 24/7 feed this summer since I'm off work until September. That is pretty sad....




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Andrews a clown!

Annie as the saboteur was a joke. She didnt do anything really...that kinda back fired on BB. Good riddence!

Brendon's cool...cocky...but I like that in my men

Britney - cute pic...but annoying.

I think her and Kathy are Mom/Daughter...which is kinda hot

Enzo - meow meow...total Jersey doosh bag!!! We would probably get along great!

Back to Kathy - the Sheriff...she should be ashamed of herself for not being able to hold herself on that punching bag thingy...and then get thru the caramel...what a joke! She just gave up. I thought she was the saboteur at first...too obvious!

Kristen is a hottie...but they havent really shown her yet so I know nada about her.

Lane is a blockhead. Has he said two friggin words so far? He's got the personality of a 45 lb weight!

Matt is a funny dude...he is going to be good for some laughs!

Monet is a bitch!

Rachel and her gigantic cans is great! I hope she sticks around for obvious reasons!

And once again the shows token phag is a flop!

PZ


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I was watching the showtime feed for a bit last night and none of them seemed very interesting. 

Is it me or do Hayden and Lane seem to always have that blank stare or deer in the headlights look?

 

I aggree MM about Kristen, I wonder why they havent shown much about her?

 




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Never watched but after all this chat I might have to check it out.


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MM and I share lots of the same opinions about these cast members. I can't believe that those fools never actually woke up and realized that Brendon and Rachel should have been broken up. The only way the Brigade should have allowed her to stay was if they made a deal with both her and Brendon (still keeping the "Brigade" a secret, maybe just a couple members approaching Brendon and Rachel and making it seem like an alliance of maybe 5 or 6). At this point, Brendon is pissed and not really able to be trusted, so that was a stupid thing for Hayden to have done (and he will probably take the fall-out unless Brendon is smart enough to realize that Hayden is pretty dumb and Enzo and Matt were really running things).



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I LOVE BB!  The lifelong frinds are Kristen and Hayden.  They're both 24 and they haven't show a lot of her, but she said something I read on realitybbq.com where she said to him "I'm trying not to lay out beside you and be around you"

I wonder what other tricks they have up their sleeves.

Rachel's laugh is super annoying.




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New rule..... no spoilers

If anyone wants to post any information that was not shown during the regular airing of the evening program, please start your own thread. I have been avoiding the websites that have spoilers because I hate finding that stuff out early.


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Good job....Katie



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it was a guess.  I don't know for sure!  I just read where she said that!  Maybe they're in a secret alliance and she didn't want to look like they were close...kinda like how June and Chen (sp?) did in the ex-factor season! 

Some of my friends think it's the Sheriff and the young blonde are aunt and neice.  Aren't there two people from Arkansas as well?

I won't put spoilers here, TBG.  Gracious....

Thank you MM. 




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Putting Monet and Britney up seemed pretty petty to me. I think Enzo, Hayden and Matt should have been the likely targets. Who knows, Brendon and Rachel seem to have more brains than Jeff and Jordan and look how far those two got!


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I want Enzo out.  Bring back Kaaaaayyysaarrrr!




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KJ - No way...meow meow has to stay in the house!

TBG - it appears as though these nominations were an attempt to make as less noise or waves as possible. At this point in the game that is an understandable strategy but I dont think its gonna work. Brendan and Rachel have huge targets on their back...and I dont think they are getting removed...

That being said if they end up back dooring one of the brigade depending on what happens with the veto...good move!

One last thing...why is it on Weds, Thurs and Sun? Wasnt it Tues, Thurs and Sun before?


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Yeah...I guess Enzo is the only 'character' in the house.  TBG and MM - all 3 of us need to get on that show.  I'd suck at it, but it would be fun to see how TBG overanalyzes everything and how MM would just sayd "Whateva'" and could probably tell everyone exactly how things will play out.




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I would totally - and I mean totally rawk at this show.

I am such a likeable...err...loveable guy! I get along with everyone. Well almost everyone

Let's do it!


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I cannot believe Brit and Monet were crying as much as they were.

What the hell is that all about?

They edit the show so that all they do is show them shitting on everyone...especially Rachel...and then they are shocked when they get put up? OMG!

Wicked bad move to Matt to go up as a pawn...I dont remember this specific history but it I kinda remember that not really working out for the best. But whatever...he would obviously have the 3 other brigade votes...the ghey dude...and then the two in the showmance so he should be all set but...

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The word I used when I watched it was "crybaby" m I said that for Brit and Money and even Rachel. Those chicks are taking things too personally.

I like Matt. However, I have questioned some of his gameplay. I didn't understand why he felt it was helpful to seem paranoid last week, and I think he created some questions in Rachel's mind, not by offering himself up as a pawn, but by seeming too eager to do it. I think he should have explained how he might be willing to do it to help the people in the room but he wanted something in return. The way he did it, he just offered and Brendon asked what he wanted in exchange.

I am not sure why everyone seems so eager to ignore the possibility of using Andrew as an ally. He seems to be assumed by everyone as expendable.

I find the show's editing interesting of how it is not so clear where any alliance is concerning Kathy, Kristen, and Ragan.

I'll tell you, that Kristen must be pretty boring because they rarely show her, and she is probably the cutest one in the house.


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One conclusion that I surmised whilst watching late evenings show is that Brendon and Andrew must be the lifelong friends.

Brendon was telling Rachel that he trusts Andrew and it didnt make sense to me, and then even Rachel asked him why he trusted him...and he responded something like...I just do.

But with that and then remembering that he was jumping around like a little girl when Rachel won the HOH...I figured that is why!

The whole Kristen thing is amazing...she cant be any more boring than Lane...I wonder why they arent showing her! A couple of peeps at my work say that she is hooking up with Hayden on the after dark programming...

Whateva'!


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MM!!!!  No spoilers!  You'll get the wrath of TBG's Caps Lock




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More freaking crying last night! I enjoyed watching Monet looking crushed. I loved Brit's send off comments about hair extensions and also Kristen's high-hip pants. I never noticed it, but now I'll keep an eye out for it.

So, Kristen and Hayden are hooking up? At least they are smarter about it than Brendon and Rachel.

There was never any doubt in my mind about Matt staying. Of course Brit and Monet tried to make a big deal about it, but nobody other than them and Brendon and Rachel would even care. All that bimbo Rachel accomplished by that stunt of female bonding is to ensure she is getting evicted the next chance there is. I would not want Matt pissed at me. He is running that house.


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So my boy Matt is HOH. I fully expect that if he has to pick someone else to replace one of his original nominees, he will pick Brendon. Brendon is more of a threat than Rachel.

Seems like Hayden and Kristen are doing a pretty good job of keeping their escapades secret from the brigade so far. I am also surprised that the existence of the brigade is still a secret.

Wonder what drama is being cooked up this week.


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HAHAHAAHA - Matt is a doosh!

The brigade are the biggest bunch of knobs ever to play the BB game. And Matt is the brains!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




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Finally towards the end of the episode last night Matt explained to Andrew what he was thinking about. Sounds like he was not putting up the "power couple" so that they would not automatically play in the POV competition. That is a good reason. The odds were certainly on his side that both of them would not be selected, but a very slight chance that they both would play for the POV actually happened, and now Matt looks like a DB. Honestly, I think it was a good plan, but at the end of the day, results are what matters, and now neither of them will go home, so Matt will catch the blame.

Also, it must really play with your mind being in that house and thinking about the GAME all the time. Sitting back at home watching it all play out in an hour is easy for us to say that they are over-thinking things.

After the footage last night I think MM has it right about Andrew and Brendon being friends. They wisper, they have each other's back, Brendon is 100% sure that Andrew is on his side...


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Ah BB my favorite reality tv show   I have had dreams of playing many times in the past... i have even made it on the show several times and been a bb all star type player (in my dreams) tho never won

I bet Mensa members who watch the show cringe that Matt is representing them  

does everyone have favorites yet?  i still don't really have one person i'm rooting for.

As for kaysar, yes you could bring him back but he'd get voted out the next week... he seems to have a BB curse that way




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I love how the housemates use terms coined on BB from previous years. They freely use "bros before hoes" and "showmance" and I think I even heard "bromance" this season.




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i think they should've called it the bro-gade instead of the brigade

andrews speech was crazy... rachel is really crazy... it's good to see the game start to get a little down and dirty finally.

i wonder who will be offered the new saboteur job... i vote ragan or lane because they'd be least likely to be suspected.  although i think lane wouldn't take the job... ragan might.




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I would love it if America voted someone to be the sabateur who would end up screwing up their own game trying to sabatage stuff. I think Enzo or Hayden would wreak havoc with that role, but I would crack up watching Britney or maybe Kristen screwing with stuff like putting stuff in shampoo bottles and maybe getting caught.

I LOVE how the secret Kristen/Hayden romance is out there and I LOVE how Rachel is threatened by it. When Andrew announced it and they started the HOH contest, the first thing out of my mouth was, "everyone should always put either Rachel or Brandon or Hayden or Kristen up in every single round to increase the chances of them not winning." Just like how Matt's plan backfired, even though Kristen and Rachel played every other round, Rachel smoked that HOH comp...she is one to be "reckoned" with.

That was a good episode. I have been disappointed with the slop options. I think they have been not disgusting enough.



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I was happy when Rachel got the HOH.  Yippie!....but she annoys the hell out of me.

 

I loved Andrew's speech.




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I think now that Andrew is gone the non-slop options will get worse.. they had to give him someting the poor guy could eat besides slop or he'd starve.




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Webbie, good to see you dropping in randomly! :0) I wanted to root for Kathy because she is old like me, but I just can't. Gonna start a "seasons past" thread so I don't threadjack this one....


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Re:

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I wanted to root for Kathy ...

I just can't get past the tarantula eyelashes. Someone needs to show that woman how to properly apply mascara.

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So makeup and personal grooming are your criteria for which players you like???




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Those Tammy Faye Baker lashes are pretty bad. She looks like one of the cops on Reno 911. What killed it for me was the challenge where she was just lying like a dishrag in the goop, not even trying to get up.It was so frustrating to watch!


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Daisy, she has since said she has been throwing comps so people think she's weak, including that one -- don't know if it's true or not.

I just hope if someone accepts the saboteur gig that they don't make a big announcement to the house again and sabotage the saboteur... all we are sayyyyinnng is give the saboteur a channnncceeee




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Love this show!!!!




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I would love to see Rachel or Brendon named saboteurjust to see what it does to their dynamic.  I am assuming they are not allowed to tell anyone.




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Re:

Rod the Bod said:

I was watching the showtime feed for a bit last night and none of them seemed very interesting. 

Is it me or do Hayden and Lane seem to always have that blank stare or deer in the headlights look?

 

I aggree MM about Kristen, I wonder why they havent shown much about her?

 




I agree big time!!!!!

 

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Hayden and Lane don't seem to be the sharpest tools in the shed. At least Hayden seems to realize he needs to let his shomance take the fall.

Last night was nice. I love that finally some drama is in the house. Enzo no longer applies when you say "meow meow" because there is a cat fight going on.

I was hoping that the editors just made it look like Rachel was dumb, but she put up on the block the right people last night in order to further her game.

So, Britney decided to chum things up in the bubble bath with Rachel...well it worked, she's not on the block.




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I loved Ragan's comment about people finally fighting.  You wanted your kristin, you are getting her now!  It should be an interesting week.  I think Kristin is going home this week unless she gets POV.

Too bad Matt was too stupid last week to put Rachel and Brendan on the block... who cares about backdooring - if you put them both up at least one is going home.




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<p>Too bad Matt was too stupid last week to put Rachel and Brendan on the block... who cares about backdooring - if you put them both up at least one is going home.</p>

I agree. Although I do not care for Rachel, she at least was smart enough to put people on the block who she wants to send home. She clearly does not mind the confrontation that will take place all week long. As a viewer, I love it.

Can't wait to see who the saboteur will be.

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Is it just me, or does Rachel get even MORE crazy each episode... or is she just letting her guard down and showing her natural crazy?  All I know is Brendan is crazy for wanting to be in a relationship with her. 




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Anyone else find it funny that Brendan tells Rachel that he loves her multiple times and he gets nada in return?


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Exactly why I'd already have dumped her!  She's emotionally immature.  I think he's kind of stuck in a hard place tho -- if he breaks up with her mid show then they're screwed.  Don't know if that goes through his mind.  It would be going through mine if I were him and she were doing that to me... and her talking about how he's not on her team because he's trying to help them survive the game... she is just crazy.




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Warning - spoilers below if you haven't seen thursday.

I thought they were going to do something smart for a change and vote hayden off, but nope!!

Boo to Big Brother for once again lieing to us... last episode they said we find out who is the new HOH tonight implying it would be a short contest.. but it wasn't... and the bigger lie of the new Saboteur, saying whoever we picked would get the offer.. but now we find out they will only get the offer IF the new HOH opens pandoras box.  BOO big brother.  If I had actually paid to send texts to vote I would feel really bad that my money have gone for nothing

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but now we find out they will only get the offer IF the new HOH opens pandoras box. 

Come on, you know that there is no way in that boredom that Pandora's box will not be opened. It WILL be opened. I didn't like how it was only 2 weeks of the power.

I like how Julie told Kristen that she played with...what was the word? Integrity or dignity? Either way, it wasn't really accurate since they had just talked about how she came into the game with a boyfriend. How embarrassing must that have been for the guy to watch that with all her friends and a tv crew when she was hooking up with Hayden. He just sat there and watched it.

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Yeah you could tell how visibly uncomfortable he was watching it on tv.  And it certainly didn't seem like she ever told hayden she had a boyfriend at home either.




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I have decided that Enzo and Lane are my two favorite!!!!  I think rachael has turned Brendan into a big poooosay!!!  he needs to grow a set and tell her to STFU!!




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I love britany.

 

I hope the new HOH stirs it up this week.




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Well, Matt stuck with the simple plan. More of Rachel crying. boo hoo

Anyone notice that last night the subtitle under her described her as a VIP cocktail waitress? Did the "VIP" always used to be there? Who are they kidding? We all know she is a stripper and probably does extras in the champagne room.

I knew that the Pandora's box and choice to be Saboteur would be chosen by the houseguests. I wonder whether Matt will take the heat for opening the box. Wonder whether anyone will dig through his stuff and find what he has. Even if they don't, he'll be using it within the next two weeks, so everyone will know.



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Not necessarily.. if another member of the brigade wins HOH next week he has no reason to use the power and would be stupid to do so.  It's funny that he says he has been open that if pandoras box were available that he would open it... then he wins HOH.

Rachel is so unbelievable... she does everything to make herself a target almost that she possibly can... then cries when she is nominated and takes it out on brendan because she automatically expects him to be able to win HOH.  she is so unbelievable immature




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I love britany.

 

I agree she is def growing on me.  When they were making fun of rachael wearing her hair extensions I about peed my pants!!!  That was too funny. 

It was also great when rachael said "oh the highest form of flattery is when someone makes fun of you"????????  Come on she can't really be that stooopid can she?

 

 




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I know Rod, I laughed with Rachel said that.  Really?

 

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What's with Julie's last comment at the end of the show suggesting that maybe Rachel might return to the house? Maybe she will show up on the tv screen? Maybe allow her to be in the running for the saboteur? Maybe let her host the POV challenge next week?

Brendon is toast now. Interesting how they hunted down his ex-fiance.


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Who are the lifelong friends?

Did they ever tell us that?

The sabateur being added to the show is, for me, so far a dud! Very boring...nothing really happening etc!

I will miss Rachel ( o ) ( o )

haha!

So now that she's gone...who will be the center of attention? Who is going to step up and have America talking about them?


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The lifelong friends thing was a saboteur lie. I have heard the lifelong friends are the fish in the fish tank

As for what Julie meant by maybe seeing Rachel again, I have read elsewhere that all the players since week 1 have been sequestered after leaving the house, so it looks like we are in for someone being chosen to come back into the game. Usually in the past they let america vote for someone. I think it'd be interesting i they had some kind of competition between the castoffs or a special power that someone can win in the house to choose to bring someone back.

Seems obvious that Brendan is going to be the center of attention until he is voted off! He has already vowed revenge for Rachel Brendan better win HOH or POV this week or he is toast for sure. Everyone wants him out.


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Yup she is -- all evicted house guests this year have been sequestered -- a player coming back has been expected and I'm sure that's what julie was talking about.  If they limited it to jury members they'd have only one or two people to choose from since rachel is the ony one right now.




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Man, I happened to watch a little of BB after dark and noticed something that happens tonight already!!!  Now I have to wait all day just to see the outcome  It should be a good show tonight so make sure you don't miss it!!!!




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Tonight's episode was great... don't read if you don't wanna see spoilers

It was hilarious that they had rachel come into the house when brendan was away... good one BB!!! Ragan really dogged Rachel out big time... you could tell he was getting to her at the end. I would've liked to have seen more of her time there. Great that Ragan won veto and got Matt put up as a replacement -- now Matt has to use that diamond power of veto and I am all for that. I am sure he will put Cathy up as his replacement.

Boo on Hayden and Enzo for betraying their alliance. It is true that Matt has friends outside of the alliance (whose fault is it that they don't???) but he doesn't have any specific alliance otherwise and he's done the most for the brigade of any member. Everybody else has been completely useless and can't win a competition to save their lives. Now they turn on him because he's playing the social game well and is good at endurance competitions.


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I wonder what will happen now that Matt is up on the block. I can't remember if he is even allowed to tell anyone that he has the DPOV or not, but if he keeps quiet about it I think it will be interesting to see if Hayden and Enzo tell him that they are choosing Lane to stay. If so, then the Brigade may be done...

I loved how the Ra-tress was in the house looking for her man and he wasn't there. Man, Ragan brought the claws out and I was hoping to see Rachel cry, but she didn't. The only thing that would have made that part better is if Matt and Princess Britney jumped down Rachel's throat like Ragan did.

Did anyone really think that Brendan would vote for anyone other than who was spelled out in the pretzels? I mean, they made it seem like he might actually think on his own, but he is drunk with love that it is killing his game.


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It seems like the brigade are just about done anyway. Enzo and Hayden have decided matt is too big of a threat and seem to be almost happy to see him voted out...

It was funny that no one else got involved with rachel.

Agree that his whole game has been warped by his love for rachel -- he should've taken ragan up on his alliance offer. It really would've been a good move. He is making no moves in the house to get himself further in the game - his only goal is revenge. Guess what -- you can't be HOH next week and everyone wants you out. The only person who might not care if you go home (cathy) is most likely going home this week. With cathy out, everyone else has alliances/friendships other than you brendan - you have no one in the house at all - this would've been your week to build alliances at HOH but you squandered the opportunity.

I also thought it was hilarious when ragan broke down crying because britney was such a nice person I like britney but nice isn't necessarily one of the adjectives i would describe her with.


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Britney in a bikini = NICE!!!!!!!!!!

Rachel got the shit verbally beaten out of her by Ragan and I thought it was great. She came back at him with nothin!! It is sad to think of her watching the show back and seeing herself act the way she acted...she oughta be so pissed at herself for being such a bitch!

So what is with the DPOV? Can Matt veto just one or both of the nominees?

So if it is just one...and Kathy goes up and gets sent home...no big deal! No real power move there!


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I believe he can Veto both nominees!!  It would be interesting if Enzo and Hayden tell him they are voting for Lane to stay.  He could then remove himself and Lane and put up Hayden and Enzo.

I agree webbie, when Ragan called Rachel a ra-tress, I was rolling. 




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He said tonight on the show that he has the power to take one nominee off and replace it with whoever he wants. I think he will veto himself and put Cathy up in his place. I don't think he can put brendan up -- if he could i'm sure he'd put brendan up

I like Ragan - I wouldn't mind seeing him win but I doubt he will. You can tell he has real love for he game.

I don't think matt would ever put up hayden or enzo at this point - they're more valuable to him than other players. there's no way he'll find out they're having second thoughts about him. 2 people from the brigade on the block, the have to vote for one - or so they think

Rachel is the kind of person who even if she watches the show back won't see what she did wrong. Same with brendan - they are both very self-unaware and egotistical. They are unable to see themselves from another person's perspective... and because they have each other they can reinforce that they are right and everone else is wrong. Rachel won't have long to wait til she is reunited with brendan though -- unless there is a major shakeup in the house in the next week brendan's going home. Then again, major shakeups have been known to happen.

Also, I think it is getting to that point in the season we will probably be seeing a double eviction soon! Maybe next week who knows.

Here are some interesting twists they should do:

I would like to see them have a competition among the players (i actually thought this might be what the saboteur was talking about tonight) where whoever wins HAS TO choose one evicted house guest to return.

I think they should also let america vote to have one of the evicted house guests return without the possibility of winning but just to be in the house -- no threat of eviction would change the way they acted. you could give them some prize like the saboteur gets at the end

Otherwise, let america vote one of the players back in, but this time make it so they can't be evicted for at least 2 weeks to at least give the person a shot at reestablishing themself in the house.


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To be honest webbie - I am not sure that bringing someone back in the house would work. Wouldnt they come back in with a MASSive target on their backs and then be gone ASAP?

What they should do...is have a show from the jury house. Once there is a couple of peeps in it anyways. I would love to see some more of that interaction!


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See my suggestions They should either be brought back without the ability to be voted out or to win, or they should be given 2 weeks before they are eligible to be evicted. A LOT can change in two weeks in that house.

I am also somewhat disturbed that they have not done any 'catching up with previous season's players' this year yet -- I like those.


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Nope they never did... I have a feeling based on my observations of the two, that they were probably unpopular in high school and although they got science degrees are overcompensating for their past... besides, Rachel is too 'Las Vegas' to have a chemistry job

BTW, WHO CALLED IT!!!???? ME!! DOUBLE EVICTION TIME!! Am I good or what? I also called Kathy going home, but I don't think that is really a huge surprise she was the only logical replacement.

I loved how everyone (except brendan of course) was so excited about it. Brendan didn't seem too excited about britney winning hoh which is his only hope for staying I guess he doesn't believe she is going to keep her word. He better hope he can win POV or he's gone next week.

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Matt was fishing to see if Hayden and Enzo were going to ditch him. Lucky for those two numbskulls that they played as if it was a tough decision.

What's up with Britney's mom saying that she thinks Britney likes Lane but the only thing holding her back is Britney's fiancee...but if Britney hooked up with Lane, mom would support? Wow. The fiance must feel the love! I don't think the fiancee was sitting in the room watching that on tv. Some male was there, but maybe it was her brother?

I could care less about double eviction, but I liked Webbie's other thoughts about bringing back former houseguests to wreak havoc with immunity from being voted out.


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Matt's speech was priceless...calling Brendon a big dummy...hahaha!

I got a kick out of that!

So what are your thoughts about Britney and HOH? Think she keeps her word and doesnt nominate Brendon? Who gets put up?

It wont be Lane...Ragan or Matt, since they are buddies. Shouldnt be Brendon since she made a deal...which leaves her with Meow Meow, Hayden and Enzo right!

Hmmmmmmmmm....should be a good one!


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She already said (more than once) she would break her word to brendan and I'm sure she will. No one is going to hold it against her but brendon... if she didn't nominate brendon, she would risk adding extra enemies.. right now everyone wants brendon out, so there are no consequences for putting him up. Someone else just has to go up as a pawn - the big question is who will that be... she's not likely to put up matt or ragan or lane which only leaves hayden and enzo! i wonder if hayden or enzo have realized that yet? the good thing for them is they're just the pawns... if the brigade doesn't get found out or implode, brendon's still going home. then again, brendon has been known to win POV before.

matt is lucky... that DPOV couldn't have worked out better for him. at the beginning of the game you kind of laughed at him with his mensa stuff and being the smartest in the house, but you look at him now and he has either friendships or alliances with everyone in the house (except for brendon who should be going home) and he's the only person who has that.


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He is seriously acting like he has never been with a girl before.

His behavior in reference to Rachel is so immature it is sickening.




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So....

The have-have not competition was pretty lame but I liked the outcome

As for the nominations - hmmmm... something tells me that little Brit shouldnt have went back on her promise to Brendan. I am not a fan of "his" per se, but I love me some underddog!!!! So for the drama of it all...I am hoping he gets POV and someone else has to go up (I am sure it would be Hayden).

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It depends on whether brendan wins POV - he's done it before, but you can't do it always and sometimes he folds under pressure.  That being said, it's his own fault - ragan offered him a very smart and full alliance if he kept him off the block last week and put britney up and would have kept his word, but he chose the person who out and out lied to him to the one who was serious.  And britney is exactly right that she can't trust brendan - just earlier he said he wanted to get rid of either britney, matt or ragan.

I bet it would be hayden too - I wish Matt had found out that he whole brigade was in there lobbying for him to go up on the block.  What a bunch of traitors.  Matt is most definitely playing both sides of the house but he's just being smart - he is friends with ragan and britney but they are in no alliance.  The rest of the brigade are jealous because they don't have the same position - and I'm not sure why it's bad for Matt to have Ragan when Lane has Britney... oh that's right -- because Mr. can bench press over 300 pounds can't win one competition even when like last week's HOH against brendan it's tailor made for him. 




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So last night they disclosed that Enzo and Hayden told Matt that they were voting against him. They kept that little nugget from us last week. Dumb moves. Now Matt doesn't trust them, and as you can see from the nominations, he has the power to inflict pain. I think Matt will shift away from the Brigade and have an alliance with Brit, Layne and Ragan. He may have to dance a bit to survive the next couple weeks, but if either of the nominations change this week, then he may go up on the block and out the door.

I said before, Brednon's foolish crush on Rachel ruined his game. The ONLY way he stands a chance is if he wins POV and other people in the house align themselves with him.


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I have a feeling britney is going to tell matt that the rest of the brigade came and suggested puting him up.  They are stupid that is total betrayal.  I'm not sure why matt would be so mad about last week - if it's matt and lane up, SOMEBODY has to go.  can he really blame them with going against the bigger threat?

Britney would be stupid to put Matt up if someone uses POV.  Matt, Ragan and Lane are her friends in the house - Brendan Hayden and Enzo are not.  It should be easy for her to know who to put up as a replacement if she's smart.  Even if she doesn't know about the brigade, she should know enzo and hayden aren't taking her before the other guys.  As long as brendon doesn't win POV it doesn't matter as the house will almost surely go with the safe vote. 




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I'm done with Enzo.  The man hasn't done anything in the house except look like he's had horrible hair plugs.  He needs to go.  Brendon should have aligned with Ragan




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Brendon + ragan would have been phenomenal as an alliance.  No one would ever have suspected... although it's so late in the game now it would've been hard for them to make too many moves without someone else joining them.




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Enzo was "cast" because he represents Jersey. I mean, he IS good drama. Not really too many tough guidos call themselves feminine nick-names...and come onto national tv with a shirt broadcasting it! He sucks at all challenges. He talks the talk, but he has little to offer other than one vote. Now that he is on the hot seat, he will be acting tough, but I am guessing that he will be nothing but more FAIL in the POV comp.


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Lane's diary room moments last night were cracking me upLaughing

 

Enzo has turned into a Doosher!!!!!!

When Enzo and Hayden told Matt they were voting him off he should have struck a deal with Kathy and put up Enzo.  IMO




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Lane was pretty funny last night...I like it!

But...the dude shoulda been able to slam out more than 3 reps at 325 for representing the muscle of the group...IMHO!


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I agree MM I thought he would be able to bust out more than 3 reps!!!!




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i didn't think he would given his performance in that rope challenge... i wasn't even sure he'd get the weight done...  i don't think he was trying to do as many reps as possible either tho just prove he could do it.  i was pretty impressed tho that's still a good bit of weight... hell of a lot more than I can bench

Enzo is lame.. he may talk tough, but he most definitely isn't.  he and hayden really turned on matt fast considering the guy came through for the brigade when they needed it, when no one else would, and got rid of rachel for'em.   nobody else in the brigade has done squat.




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I have been keeping quiet since nobody else brought it up, and it hasn't been on the regular airings (and it really can't given the "family" nature of the show) but NOBODY on here has commented on Layne's, shall we say self love.

Google it. It's up on youtube. Britney must have gotten the poor guy all worked up.

EDITED TO ADD: I have not seen the video myself (before MM makes a comment) but apparently the ladies have been running up the hits online, and I have heard the gossip.



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Ah yeah I read about that too   i'm sure that guys got a lotta testosterone pumpin... it's gotta go somwhere




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Not exactly sure what you are referring to...but I'm good!

The game is about numbers right...w/Matt finding out that Lane and Zo were going to cut him loose...that doesnt bode well for his future in the game. Although I like his attitude and his cockiness...it doesnt take much for others to see what he is doing and to get voted out.

I am still hopeful that Brendon will get the POV - simply for the theater of it all.

And isnt this week a double elimination?

Lets see here...there is Brendon, Brit, Lane, Ragan, Hayden, Matt and Zo left.

After this week I think - Ragan and Matt will be gone.

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How will Ragan and Matt be gone?  Brit is not going to put either of them up as they're both her friends/allies in the house.  Either Brendon, Enzo or Hayden will go thursday.. then who knows after it just depends on who wins HOH.  I think Brendon will be gone this week I don't think he'll get POV and he's the safe voteout.




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Watch and learn Webbie!

C'mon...I think Brit puts up Matt after Brendon gets the POV (fingers crossed) and takes himself off.

Didnt Matt push for her to be put up on the block last week?


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Brendon pretty much has to win POV to stay. If he does, then the dynamics of the game have to shift because if you can't vote him out, then you have to vote someone else out. Just like in the past when they couldn't get rid of him or Rachel they had to nibble away at their own group. Now that it is getting closer to the end, their group is smaller and some of the former key players will be viewed as a threat to the weaker players. Matt is a key example. We have someone like Layne or Enzo who basically cannot win anything on their own, and they see Matt winning everything he does. At SOME point they will have to think that if it came down to them and Matt in final 2, the jurors will respect Matt for controlling the game. So, it becomes a smart move for the weaker players to keep everyone weak so you have a shot if you make it to final 2.

If Brendon stays this week (big if) than, SOMEONE will begin to view him as an asset to align with to help vote off matt or britney who have been powerful and won competitions. However, if Bredon doesn't win POV, I don't see ANY other winner of POV using it on brendon.


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I guess we'll just have to see what happens.  I don't think brendon will get pov anyway.  I usually like underdogs too but I find it hard to root for the underdog when he's a d-bag.  So really not rooting for brendon or enzo to win POV this week haha




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So who are you voting to win?  I hope Brendon DOES get POV and they put up Hayden.  If he scream talks at the camera one more time in the diary room.....geeze....

I'd like to see Ragan will the whole thing




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I like Ragan for just underdog status.  I like Matt for best gameplay.  I hope Brendon gets the boot this week, because then next week is gonna be full on war between the two sides of the house.  If Brendon stays this week because he gets POV, then he's still a big target next week.




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I like Ragan for just underdog status.  I like Matt for best gameplay.  I hope Brendon gets the boot this week, because then next week is gonna be full on war between the two sides of the house.  If Brendon stays this week because he gets POV, then he's still a big target next week.




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Goodbye Matt - guess you weren't as smart as you thought.  Boy did he mis-play that one!  And what was he thinking not trying harder to win POV I guess he thought brit wouldn't put him up




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Matt doesn't even seem to have a clue that the Brigade screwed him over. I can't see any way that he stays now. His gameplay has had several examples of poor decisions, and last night basically ended the game for him.

Let's see how Brendan gets aligned now that he isn't going home. He needs to finally get his head back in the game and TRY to make some alliances instead of just having vendettas.


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Watched BBAD from night before last... he still doesn't have a clue.  Ragan and him are back to being buds and I think he'll get ragan's vote but looks like that's it.

Brendon is working on getting along... i dunno what his problem is if I were him I would be trying to build alliances.  Then again he probably feels he can't really trust anyone in the house.




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Matt and Brendon got robbed! No chance to see goodbye messages from the houseguests. Those messages might have swayed their votes if the rest of the brigade let on that they'd screwed matt over. Very lame. I am guessing maybe they got to see them but they just didn't show it on tv? Those are one of my favorite parts of eviction night! Boo big brother! The brigade is gonna roll through the house now and the sad thing is matt is the one who set'em up to do it - he stayed loyal to them the whole game and got screwed because they got greedy and thought they couldn't beat him without backdooring him. Looks like it's going to end up being 2 brigade members at the end and everyone'll have no choice but to vote for one of them. It's funny how matt is accused of playing the other side of the house for having ragan but the same doesn't go for lane with britney??? How does that work? I'm glad ragan won POV and saved his own ass. Looks like pov didn't help brendon really at all - it bought him an extra 20 minutes. At least he'll get to be with his beloved rachel now


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Well the pecking order is pretty well telegraphed. Ragan and Britney better start scrambling. Brit has the best options with her connections to Ragan and Layne. If she can trick dumbo Layne into an alliance and get rid of the Brigade members, she will stand a good chance.


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Yup - Britney is stupid.  Top 4 doesn't get you any money.  Lane's already made it clear he's with the brigade first and britney's just his toy.. think it might have been different if britney weren't engaged and they could get a showmance going... he's just going to play her as long as he can.  Britney or Ragan will be gone this week depending on who wins POV... then if one of the brigade members gets HOH next week, it's brigade til the end.  Unless something really shakes things up in the brigade it's theirs for the taking.  I wonder if BB will tailor the next HOH to be one that Britney or Ragan is well suited to winning.  They already made POV Ragan friendly last week




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Didn't they use to show on Thursdays the person evicted the week before going into the eviction house?  I always liked that part!!

 

If Brit or Ragan win the next HOH and they are smart enough to team up they might have a shot!!




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Me too Rod.. they also used to have 2 or 3 little 5 minute 'what are old cast members up to these days' spots.. i miss those too.

Brit isn't smart enough... she is under layne's thumb and still believes he doesn't have another alliance ahead of her.  i'm sure layne'll tell her to put ragan up and she will.  she wants to be top 4 with the brogade.




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He is for sure unless he gets POV. Poor Ragan.




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Ragan ain't going home this week, I dont think!

Unless Enzo wins the POV (hahahahahahahahahaha - yeah right!!!!!).

Enzo will and should go home. The Lane/Britney/and now Ragan alliance got the numbers...


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Are you watching bb after dark?? cuz lane is still in the brigade and lane is not with ragan




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I am not watching BBAD...on occasion I catch a few minutes of it...but thats about it.

Lane should still be with the brigade...thats good...but he also has Brit...and Ragan knows that the guys are working together so he will follow Brit and Lane rules Brit etc...


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He won't turn on enzo (tho it would serve him right if he did).    Ragan is the easy target this week - in just about every week this season, the house votes the 'easy' target out (the one that pisses the fewest people off).  Ragan is a much bigger competitor than enzo and has a better chance of winning than enzo if he's in the final two... and enzo never wins anything i'd much rather go against him in the final HOH.




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good point...we'll see tonight who wins the POV!

S/B interesting.


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Now that this BB is winding down, I just started watching the UK's Ultimate Big Brother 9their version of all stars).  This big brother has both all stars and celebrities mixed.  BB in the UK is so much bigger than here.  I wish it were as big of a deal here as there.

Interesting differences...

* They enter the house one at a time and go through a huge crowd/fanfare going in.

* The contestants aren't all thin, young and hot.  A lot of the winners of previous seasons are quite unusual characters.

* Coolio is on this season (he came in 3rd in their BB 6)

* They have already had 4 celebrity big brother seasons

* One of the contestants has already called coolio a 'proper wanker'

* They have a 'tree of temptation' that talks to the guests and gets them to do things in exchange for rewards...



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What about Evil Dick and his skeezy daughter?


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Well I started making out a list, then i realized most of them were from the previous BB All Stars... I think we should have some fresh blood in there so here's what I think.

The other nominees for the last BB all stars who didn't make it:

My other houseguests:

Hardy from S2

Jun from S4

Evil Dick and Eric from S8

Ryan and Sheila S9

S10: Dan and Memphis

S11: Jeff, Russell, Casey

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Cowboy was one of, if not the number one, biggest cry baby pussies ever to be on the show. Total DB!

So who is going home tonight?

I am glad he put up Hayden...maybe a good time for a power move?

And BTW - the dancing punishment was very funny!!!!!!!!!!!!



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I don't see any real way Ragan makes it... even if ragan convinced britney, layne would be the tiebreaking vote and I don't think he'd go against the brigade like that. 

Yeah cowboy was one of the goofiest/most effiminate kickers i've ever seen.  I'll take some total DBs in a big brother all star game over some bland players though, you know?  Looking back over the past seasons, some were much more memorable than others... this one is gonna be pretty unmemorable because the houseguests this year were so bland.  Casting needs to start going with personality over age and beauty.

They really did get most of the best players in the last BB all stars.




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Enzo has talked so much crap all season, but he has been a dismal failure when it comes to challenges. Finally, he pulls one out, and probably the most important one for him to have won.

Apparently a couple nights ago Brit was spotted freak dancing with Ragan




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Go Brit!

Go Brit!

Go

Go

Go Brit!




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I don't know John I think Layne realizes that if Ragen goes home then Enzo and Hayden will feel that they might have to team up against Brit and Layne.  Layne cannot play HOH and Hayden could very easily win HOH and put up Brit and Layne.

Even if Brit wins hoh:  she puts up Hayden and Enzo and one of those two win POV then she has to put Layne up and I think either Hayden or Enzo would then vote off Layne.  His best move would be to tell Ragen that he will have Brit vote out Hayden and since Layne is the tie breaker he will keep Ragen if he keeps Layne safe the next week.  If Layne could make it to the final two with either Brit, Ragen or the Meow Meow I think he would def get the win.

 

 




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Good point rod!  I don't know if layne is going to think it that far through tho... we'll see.  I hope so though - I want to see ragan stay in and the brigade go down in flames.  I definitely don't want to see the final two be all brigade members.  Hopefully ragan will point that stuff out and layne will do it... but he does not seem to be the brainiest in the group   I think people are discounting brit - she has done a good job once her evil twin left and has done as much to deserve to win as almost anyone left in the house.




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Tonight will def be Interesting!!!!!!!!




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I am hoping for a Ragan/Layne/Brit alliance, but it will all depend on Hayden going home, but I just don't see that happening, mainly because Layne is too stupid. Layne's biggest mistake is thinking he can beat Hayden for jury votes.


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I think y'all are selling Lane short.

C'mon men...he is a smart player. He is in total control.

He didnt put up Brit initially...and then didnt replace meow meow with her...he knows exactly what he is doing.


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Mass_Man said:
I think y'all are selling Lane short.

He won't win. He made a bad move keeping Hayden. Hayden has played a great game from the perspective of being friendly towards everyone. Britney bombed in this department. Besides her obvious fights with Rachel and Brenden, in her kiss off speeches when they got voted out, she made it clear she didn't like them personally. Hayden's farewell speeches when people got voted out to the jury have always been nice. he is thinking about keeping them happy for votes. Hayden is the front runner in my eyes. Of course, the HOH comp will determine exactly how things end up.

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Yup. He would've been smarter to keep Ragan... apparently he reserves his backstabbing and betrayal of loyalty only for Matt.


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Ragen hit the nail on the head!!  Layne could have made a great strategic move!!   Now we will see where the Brogade loyalties lie this coming week!!!!

Anybody Survivor fans?????




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I watch survivor some seasons but not all... definitely will be this year I'm interested to see the old (including jimmy johnson) vs. old competition




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